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given the choice between living with COVID19 moving thru society with no mitigation or living in a world run by progressives, I will take the less dangerous.... Gimme Covid19.
gives us a better chance at survival.
In general, I sincerely hope that our public officials make the decisions that work best towards everyone's behalf, including the ones I don't politically agree with on just about anything.
If they are able to make wise policy decisions that end up benefitting people's health, safety, and general welfare, I'm supportive of them doing well on this part of their job even if I don't politically agree with them on any of the other parts.
In general, I sincerely hope that our public officials make the decisions that work best towards everyone's behalf, including the ones I don't politically agree with on just about anything.
If they are able to make wise policy decisions that end up benefitting people's health, safety, and general welfare, I'm supportive of them doing well on this part of their job even if I don't politically agree with them on any of the other parts.
I don't see how the tribalism is helpful.
As always, it's about finding the right balance; in this case between health and economic security. I don't envy the task these governors have taken on -- it's a lose-lose situation.
As always, it's about finding the right balance; in this case between health and economic security. I don't envy the task these governors have taken on -- it's a lose-lose situation.
You're right. There is no way they're going to please everyone.
How Donald Trump failed at the single most important task of the Oval Office: keeping the American people safe from harm.
Trump knew all this. In fact, he knew a lot more. He had been getting daily intelligence reports for two months, warning him about the risk of a pandemic. It’s impossible to believe he had not been told that COVID-19 was at least 10 times more deadly than the flu, or that it was passed human to human with a just touch or a cough. A top White House adviser had already warned that a full-blown pandemic could imperil the lives of millions of Americans. Virtually every public-health expert in the world was speaking out, warning politicians and community leaders what was about to hit us.
Nevertheless, since the moment the outbreak was first publicized in January, Trump had been doing nothing but downplaying it. To him, the pandemic was merely another plot to sabotage him. “They’re trying to scare everybody . . . cancel the meetings, close the schools — you know, destroy the country,” he told his guests that weekend. “And that’s OK, as long as we can win the election.”
New York city was really hit hard. I'm not sure Mayor de Blasio saw it coming, although he claims everyone did. In early March he said, and I quote:
"Since I'm encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives - get out on the town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions."
And then he recommended some movies for New Yorkers to go see. And that means the subway and taxis for most people.
I have my doubts about people in government, or the media, no matter who they work for, that claim the President was the only person who didn't see the dangers of the virus. A lot of people went back to delete their earlier comments. A lot of finger pointing by people who were just as guilty of not understanding the danger.
How Donald Trump failed at the single most important task of the Oval Office: keeping the American people safe from harm.
Absolute security demands absolute obedience and subjugation; and that is too high a price to pay for anything.
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It was no secret that our govt expected a pandemic and was prepared for it before Trump took office.
Anyone who read beyond what was aimed at the front row at WrestleMania should have seen that.
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given the choice between living with COVID19 moving thru society with no mitigation or living in a world run by progressives, I will take the less dangerous.... Gimme Covid19.
gives us a better chance at survival.
hear, hear, HEAR!
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They could and they did. It was no secret that our govt expected a pandemic and was prepared for it before Trump took office.
Actually, The U.S. federal stockpile of N95 protective face masks was largely depleted during the 2009 swine flu outbreak and was not restocked.
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In July 2006, with an aggressive and novel strain of the flu circulating in Asia and the Middle East, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg unveiled a sweeping pandemic preparedness plan.
Using computer models to calculate how a disease could spread rapidly through the city’s five boroughs, experts concluded New York needed a substantial stockpile of both masks and ventilators. If the city confronted a pandemic on the scale of the 1918 Spanish flu, the experts found, it would face a “projected shortfall of between 2,036 and 9,454 ventilators.”
The city’s department of health, working with the state, was to begin purchasing ventilators and to “stockpile a supply of facemasks,” according to the report. Shortly after it was released, Bloomberg held a pandemic planning summit with top federal officials, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, now the face of the national coronavirus response.
In the end, the alarming predictions failed to spur action. In the months that followed, the city acquired just 500 additional ventilators as the effort to create a larger stockpile fizzled amid budget cuts.
Even those extra ventilators are long gone, the health department said on Sunday. The lifesaving devices broke down over time and were auctioned off by the city at least five years ago because the agency couldn’t afford to maintain them.
Another prong of the Bloomberg pandemic plan — the mass distribution of masks to the public — has not happened either, even as experts are now reversing earlier guidance and urging everyone in hot spots like New York to cover their faces.
Think of how different Bloomberg approached SARS. De Blasio messed up big time. He ditched the ventilators and didn't purchase masks. Didn't close schools or the subways.
If you take metro NYC COVID-19 numbers (NY & NJ - 34,500 dead) out of the entire USA number (74,234 dead), the USA did well - it was metro NYC that was the problem.
In general, I sincerely hope that our public officials make the decisions that work best towards everyone's behalf, including the ones I don't politically agree with on just about anything.
If they are able to make wise policy decisions that end up benefitting people's health, safety, and general welfare, I'm supportive of them doing well on this part of their job even if I don't politically agree with them on any of the other parts.
I don't see how the tribalism is helpful.
well i cant help you if you cannot see what the progressives are trying to do.
As it relates to what Trump did or didn't do as per this thread there are 2 facts that matter.
1. He listened to the scientists that the left demanded he listen to.
2. on March 9 the head scientist stated that there was no danger.
Yet the left is attacking Trump and blaming him for some kind of plague.
Tribalism is the methodology of the left. Suggesting those of us on the right are doing the same is sick. you don't blame the person that gets attacked for defending themselves.
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