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Old 05-07-2020, 10:56 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
The 2nd Amendment is not for African Americans. It never was and never will be. It was written with white males in mind, and even today, it’s a white man’s amendment. And if you notice, they prize it above all other constitutional rights because they see it as something exclusively proprietary to being a white male. Of course, they’ll come on here and say different, but I know what I know.

Doesn’t mean that I’m forfeiting my rights, but white men have more natural rights with respect to firearms than I do. And if you’re black or not white, you’d do damn good to remember that.


What rights?

Did you not try to convince everyone you have no rights?

That the 2nd amendment is not for AAs, that would be headline news. Please call CNN or msnbc. Perhaps legislators can expand the 2nd amendment to include AAs?

So when biden told us to go buy a shotgun and fire it in the air to scare away perps, he was only trying to get white men to commit aggravated assault ????

Come to NJ....jayson williams shoots his chauffer and somehow avoided the 3 year mandatory and conviction.

 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:09 AM
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I could post a video of an unarmed white guy being shot to death by police if it helps you.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:13 AM
 
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There was a time when that was true but the 14th Amendment exists in large measure because Blacks were suffering from the brutal enforcement of STATE LAWS known as the Black Codes, which among other things, forbade the possession of arms.

To be readmitted to the union, former rebel states were required to rewrite their constitutions if they declared the right to arms as only respected for Whites and to ratify the 14th Amendment -- which made the non-discriminatory 2nd Amendment enforceable on the states.

STATES have worked very hard to continue discriminating against Blacks, even though they couldn't be so bold and blatant as to enact a law saying "NO BLACK CAN OWN A GUN", they could be geographically restrictive winkwink, and continue to ignore the 14th and frustrate its intent.



Not only is what you "know" wrong, it is self-limiting propaganda that fulfills the self-debasement and victim status in Black citizens that Democrats desire (and need). . . That's no surprise, the Democrats have worked hard to instill that mindset in Blacks while writing and enforcing the laws you say make the 2ndA a "White Man's Law". The cognitive dissonance is alarming and depressing.



And yet in actual practice, POC are expected to be automatic Democrat lever-pullers by the Democrats who make and enforce (and vigorously defend) the laws you decry. I don't see any positive in complaining about the weight of the chains while voting to keep in power the people who keep the chains shiny and tight.

And then the most irreconcilable with reason outbursts occur . . . Blacks decry Blacks as race traitors --see Candace Owens, Jesse Lee Peterson, Larry Elder etc,-- who reject the Democrat's mind-****, reserving special hate for people like Clarence Thomas, who work to unroll / invalidate unjust Democrat laws to entrust all citizens with the full panoply of rights recognized and secured by the Constitution.

It is quite perplexing how Democrats are able to maintain the loyalty of Blacks . . .

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Our loyalties ain’t for you to understand anyway, so don’t waste too much of your time cogitating over it. I could explain it, but it’s on a need to know basis, and you don’t need to know.

Just know that we aren’t deluded enough to vote for YOUR party.

If the aforementioned Uncle Toms and Aunt Thomasinas wanna join up with you, that’s their business.
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What rights?

Did you not try to convince everyone you have no rights?

That the 2nd amendment is not for AAs, that would be headline news. Please call CNN or msnbc. Perhaps legislators can expand the 2nd amendment to include AAs?

So when biden told us to go buy a shotgun and fire it in the air to scare away perps, he was only trying to get white men to commit aggravated assault ????

Come to NJ....jayson williams shoots his chauffer and somehow avoided the 3 year mandatory and conviction.
Jayson Williams also has tens of millions of dollars. Super wealthy white folks can drive drunk, kill 4 people and get probation. You can’t do it though. You’re not rich.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
The 2nd Amendment is not for African Americans. It never was and never will be. It was written with white males in mind, and even today, it’s a white man’s amendment. And if you notice, they prize it above all other constitutional rights because they see it as something exclusively proprietary to being a white male. Of course, they’ll come on here and say different, but I know what I know.

Doesn’t mean that I’m forfeiting my rights, but white men have more natural rights with respect to firearms than I do. And if you’re black or not white, you’d do damn good to remember that.
I agree this is the true thinking of many although as stupid as hell. I do hope you were being- sarcastic---- I hope
 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:25 AM
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Side note- I was carrying a rifle to a friends when a do gooder yuppie called the cops. A nice black cop pulled in front of me and questioned me. He then took me to my destination to avoid further public (yuppie) fear. Nice cop, told me him and his friends went shooting frequently. Ive run into other cops that would have shot me. A lesson, I wouldnt do it again unless i absolutely had to. Risky no matter who you are.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:33 AM
 
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But plenty of white people get killed by police. They are not rare exceptions.



https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/...e-data/595528/
Blacks shoot and kill cops at 4 times the rate that whites shoot and kill cops. Cops shout and kill blacks at twice the rate they shoot and kill whites.

The source of the study suggests cops hesitate shooting blacks when in a confrontation for fear of racist accusations. That hesitation has gotten them killed. I didn’t save the source and it’s been a few years but I remember those numbers clearly.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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When is that ever not true? You can go back to the 1920's and the era of black lynchings in the south and, by today's standards, argue that race had little to do with it and that whites were treated the same way when found to be guilty of EXACTLY what black people were doing back them. You can even point out whites back then who were hung. I guess that proves that race was never a factor in American history, by today's tough standards of proof.

I get it. It's not what we know...but what we can PROVE. Short of a person admitting that they are racist.....there never can be proof of why someone is doing something.
No, you didn't "get it."

My comment was explicitly and specifically about the reporting, not so much about the incident. It's totally possible that the narrative they're spinning is accurate, but we can't make that judgement, because they suck at journalism.

The video is fake news. Not that the encounters were faked, but because of the dishonest way they were presented. If the creators were more interested in objective journalism than in proving a point, maybe there would be some value in what they did. As it stands, all they did was make the situation, and the discussion surrounding it, worse.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Our loyalties...
It's cute that you think you speak for the entire black population.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:43 AM
 
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By the standards used today, nothing in the past would be considered "Racial" in motivation unless its de jure. They will never admit to de facto racism past or present. There is no way to PROVE it, so they have a vested interest in denying it. Its like when someone in a relationship sees their partner out holding hands and kissing someone else. Unless you confront the person right then, they will just lie and say it was not them. "It was somebody who looked like me. You remember that guy I was telling you about that people say look like me? It was probably him. I swear. I would never do that".

People are going to lie....even to themselves, rather than change their beliefs. If racism HAS BEEN really that impacting upon blacks.....then that may explain the socioeconomic conditions and behaviors of blacks today....and not some innate racial inferiority. To make that admission also gives backing and credibility to the liberal cause. That is too many blows to the jaw of a right leaning white person to take. They have to duck those blows or get knocked the blank out by the truth.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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By the standards used today, nothing in the past would be considered "Racial" in motivation unless its de jure. They will never admit to de facto racism past or present. There is no way to PROVE it, so they have a vested interest in denying it. Its like when someone in a relationship sees their partner out holding hands and kissing someone else. Unless you confront the person right then, they will just lie and say it was not them. "It was somebody who looked like me. You remember that guy I was telling you about that people say look like me? It was probably him. I swear. I would never do that".

People are going to lie....even to themselves, rather than change their beliefs. If racism HAS BEEN really that impacting upon blacks.....then that may explain the socioeconomic conditions and behaviors of blacks today....and not some innate racial inferiority. To make that admission also gives backing and credibility to the liberal cause. That is too many blows to the jaw of a right leaning white person to take. They have to duck those blows or get knocked the blank out by the truth.

White people need no "blows" from black people. Nor reminders of some racist past of the country.


White countries aren't perfect but they treat minorities in their midst better than black countries do. Or Asian countries. Or "Latin" countries. By many magnitudes. It's not even close how much more advanced white countries and society is in comparison to "minority-majority" countries and cultures.


This is a fact that none of you race baiters will ever - ever - be able to explain around as you obsess about "whiteness" and "white supremacy" and "white racism" and whatever else you want to blame for white society not being quite as perfect as you want. The cognitive dissonance of the intersectional, creitical-race-theory pseudo intellectuals must be profound. I guess there's some underlying expectation that white people are somehow more capable or morally superior to every other race. Since only they seem to have expectations of perfection while the "melinated world" is out there enslaving and putting minorities in gulags and keeping them from holding political office in about 90% of the rest of the rest of the countries out there.


But, you know that white people are more susceptible to the heaps of guilt and psychological shaming you peddle, so you (and many others) spend a lifetime exploiting it.


May you make many guilty white liberal friends who will fall over themselves trying to prove they're "one of the good ones."
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