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Old 05-07-2020, 11:50 AM
 
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Bad news if you have a pre-existing condition


Good news if you don't appreciate being forced to pay for everyone else's pre-existing conditions.

You will still do that, its baked into the cost of your insurance plan. And your taxes cover re-imbursement to Emergency Rooms for uninsured patients (a portion at least). Why do so many think they will not have to pay for others, that would be direct pay (hand the hospital or doctor a check for the entire cost of care when you leave), the opposite of INSURANCE.

 
Old 05-07-2020, 11:53 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Trump vows complete end of Obamacare law despite pandemic

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a5f_story.html

"While the president has said he will preserve some of the Affordable Care Act’s most popular provisions, including guaranteed coverage for preexisting medical conditions, he has not offered a plan to do so, and his administration’s legal position seeks to end all parts of the law, including those provisions."

He also said time after time after time during his campaign that soon after taking office he'd replace the ACA with a far better plan.

His words and promises are meaningless, nothing more.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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He had both chambers to do it earlier on in his presidency and did nothing.

More lip service to his moronic base who either don't remember or don't know that he could have ended it.

It's with us in some form forever. Oh joy.

I remember!

Yes Trump did have both houses until the 2018...but you forget one very important thing...it took a majority vote in the Senate to put a stop to Obama care and John McCain didn't go along with the majority and voted the bill down.

But again when the Democrats and Obama had a super majority in his first term and used it to pass Obamacare no republican voted in favor. Not one.
Do you remember Pelosi saying we have to pass it to see what is in it? Do you remember Obama saying you can keep your doctor and your current health care plan and turning around and forcing people off their health care plans and on to Obamacare?
Oh yes I remember!
 
Old 05-07-2020, 04:33 PM
 
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Trump vows complete end of Obamacare law despite pandemic

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a5f_story.html

"While the president has said he will preserve some of the Affordable Care Act’s most popular provisions, including guaranteed coverage for preexisting medical conditions, he has not offered a plan to do so, and his administration’s legal position seeks to end all parts of the law, including those provisions."


I've got news for you. The "elimination" of pre-existing conditions was complete BS.


I have had cancer X2. I checked to see if I could get my own health insurance, to see if I could quit medicine (currently don't want to). I was told by both United and Blue Cross that they would not write me a policy for any price. They did say that I could go on Medicaid if I eliminated all my assets (which are substantial).


So much for the pre-existing conditions BS.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Nothing about Obamacare was cheap or efficient.
So health care through bankruptcy is cheaper and more efficient?
 
Old 05-07-2020, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Thumbs down tRump tries to smash health care during the apocalypse

Trumplings cheer.

"We demand tax cuts for billionaires!"

 
Old 05-07-2020, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Didn't let WHAT pass?

If you recall, when the GOP finally got the power, they discovered that they had no alternative plan. So finally they decided "we'll just repeal Obamacare now, and worry about a replacement later".

THAT is what John McCain voted against. Thank God, that would have been a disaster.
+1.

Something that the GOP and Trump supporters all forget.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 04:47 PM
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This is what sooooo many on the Left just can't seem to comprehend.

Obamacare did help some people....

But it did so at the expense of screwing millions of others.
And screwed many more than it helped. So many things go wrong when government takes away people's rights to make their own choices.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Trump vows complete end of Obamacare law despite pandemic

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a5f_story.html

"While the president has said he will preserve some of the Affordable Care Act’s most popular provisions, including guaranteed coverage for preexisting medical conditions, he has not offered a plan to do so, and his administration’s legal position seeks to end all parts of the law, including those provisions."
For starters, he doesn't have the power to end Obamacare. That can only be done by Congress.

The worst kept secret about the ACA was that it was made terrible on purpose. What the Democrats really wanted was a single payer system. Despite having a majority in both houses of Congress and the presidency at the time, they couldn't get enough support to create a single payer system. So they created something that was always going to be a step towards single payer. The idea was to put enough bothersome things into the ACA that Americans would demand single payer healthcare.

Sure the ACA has does some good things. It also made a mess. Everyone's insurance premiums shot way up because of it.

What we do know is that the Republicans that want to get rid of it intend to replace it with "something better." Considering how bad the ACA is, I'll believe that they have something better when I see it. In most cases, Republicans are just as incompetent as Democrats.
 
Old 05-07-2020, 05:30 PM
 
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I've got news for you. The "elimination" of pre-existing conditions was complete BS.


I have had cancer X2. I checked to see if I could get my own health insurance, to see if I could quit medicine (currently don't want to). I was told by both United and Blue Cross that they would not write me a policy for any price. They did say that I could go on Medicaid if I eliminated all my assets (which are substantial).


So much for the pre-existing conditions BS.
BINGO! ThIs entire bit about Obamacare and pre-existing coverage was a big lie. My cousin is 63 and wants to retire, but she can’t get covered via an individual policy because she had cancer 20 years ago. So she’s stuck working until age 65 when she can go on Medicare - same as it would have been before Obamacare.
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