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View Poll Results: Do you think trump has done it right?
YES 6 46.15%
NO 7 53.85%
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Old 05-07-2020, 12:19 PM
 
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I lived for many years in countries that didn't have much in the way of taxes. And it was miserable using dirt roads, hardly any type of sanitation, food safety, no mosquito (pest) control, etc. etc. It was always so great to be back to America.

So if you don't like taxes so much, maybe you should relocate to a country that doesn't have all these taxes. It's not hard to find, I was in a half dozen of them without even trying.
Uhm, if you're going to use the "what about mah roadz and skoolz" rebuttal to someone expressing disgust at the government's theft racket, you're required to not just tell me to leave the country (for using free speech in a country founded on the premise), you have to say Somalia.

Don't you know anything about official internet forum argument_by_fallacy?
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Old 05-07-2020, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Mine went straight to the burn pile.
I didn't get a check, so I didn't get a letter either.

It would be nice if he sent me a receipt & apology for the money he took from me.
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Old 05-07-2020, 12:56 PM
 
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I didn't get a check, so I didn't get a letter either.

It would be nice if he sent me a receipt & apology for the money he took from me.
He didn't technically take it, the IRS held your employer at gunpoint and made them take it. Minor technicality, but like the other morons in federal office, he sure does want to be credited with "gifting" some of it back to you.
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Old 05-07-2020, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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I didn't get a check, so I didn't get a letter either.

It would be nice if he sent me a receipt & apology for the money he took from me.
Direct deposit for me, then last week the letter.
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Old 05-07-2020, 04:08 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I think anyone who's read the Constitution knows that Congress controls the purse strings, NOT the POTUIS no matter how man silly attempts he makes to make himself appear as the great benefactor.

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Old 05-08-2020, 09:49 AM
 
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Uhm, if you're going to use the "what about mah roadz and skoolz" rebuttal to someone expressing disgust at the government's theft racket, you're required to not just tell me to leave the country (for using free speech in a country founded on the premise), you have to say Somalia.

Don't you know anything about official internet forum argument_by_fallacy?
I never said you can't exercise your right to free speech. But if you really think the government stole your money via taxes, maybe you can find your happiness in a place that doesn't tax you, or not as much.

It's great to be in America after years of sleeping under a mosquito net, the sight of open air sewer systems running along roads as the normal, unsanitary grocery stores, villagers burning waste every other day, including tires, etc. etc. etc.
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Old 05-08-2020, 10:06 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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People think that Trump should not have posted the letter... and IRS has paid the postage and fees...

There are many people who qualify for the check but didn't get it, but they got the letter. The letter informs them that their check had been sent and an IRS contact number if they did not receive it. Some didn't get it due to it being sent to a closed or wrong bank account, wrong or different mailing address, or because of ID theft or scammers who had managed to intercept the checks, etc. Yes the letters should be sent out. Mine will go into the compost pile, along with other mail that I do not need to keep.


Would those who did not receive a check but got the letter be asking this question? Doubtful that they would.
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Old 05-08-2020, 10:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Notice 1444 is an official Notice sent from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) that stimulus payments were sent to the residents of the United States. It is signed by President Trump. The notice is getting backlash from the populace. What is your view?

Source: https://xperimentalhamid.com/news/to...s-notice-1444/



It is the mainstay of Marxism. The crumbs
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Old 05-08-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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Slow news day or TDS run amuck?
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Old 05-08-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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I never said you can't exercise your right to free speech. But if you really think the government stole your money via taxes, maybe you can find your happiness in a place that doesn't tax you, or not as much.
I don't think the government stole my money, I know it for a fact based on the definition of words. They stole yours too, you just rationalize it as necessary and therefore not theft. If a street mugger can properly rationalize their actions against you as "necessary", would you similarly excuse their actions as "taxes?"
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It's great to be in America after years of sleeping under a mosquito net, the sight of open air sewer systems running along roads as the normal, unsanitary grocery stores, villagers burning waste every other day, including tires, etc. etc. etc.
None of that behavior is alleviated with taxation, nor does the absence of a state run system of forced taking create such scenarios.

Plenty of people in the United States live in areas without sewage systems, and very few of them (that I am aware of anyway) use open air sewage ditches as the solution. Likewise, there are urban settings all over the industrialized, taxed world where basic sanitation is virtually nonexistent even though the ruling state taxes the crap out of people. .

Your mosquito thing is funny because governments banned DDT based entirely on the junk science in exactly one book. Had the almighty state not banned DDT, your time in whatever 3rd world area you were in would have been decidedly less mosquito infested.

Taxes <> sanitation. Individual behavior = sanitation.
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