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Old 05-14-2020, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
Well, they could have done the investigation without declassifying and releasing the list to the media. The investigators would not only have access to the list, they would also know which report(s) the requests related to. As I said, there appears to be no correlation at all between the Kislyak calls and the list, so I’m not sure what the purpose of releasing it was other than to imply it showed wrongdoing when that’s not what it is.

I have no issue investigating and prosecuting whomever it was that leaked Flynn’s participation in the calls to the media, even if it was someone within The White House and not someone in the FBI/NSA.

My point remains that Grenell’s list is being made out to show something nefarious when it really doesn’t.
Grenell didn't indicate what the intelligence reports were in reference to, Flynn's name could have come up in many intelligence whether it was his work with the Russian Times, Turkey, contact with the Russian ambassador or other countries he was involved. This just seems so blatantly political to just release this list without any background just to generate a possible conspiracy. The release of names and the Flynn motion just look like it was contrived as a stunt.
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Old 05-14-2020, 12:21 PM
 
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Watch and see for Sydney Powell to file a "Writ of Mandamus," which would allow her to then appeal this action directly to the circuit court to force Judge Sullivan to carry out his duties as required by the law and the US Constitution:
A (writ of) mandamus is an order from a court to an inferior government official ordering the government official to properly fulfill their official duties or correct an abuse of discretion.

According to the U.S. Attorney Office, "Mandamus is an extraordinary remedy, which should only be used in exceptional circumstances of peculiar emergency or public importance."
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Old 05-14-2020, 12:22 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Grenell didn't indicate what the intelligence reports were in reference to, Flynn's name could have come up in many intelligence whether it was his work with the Russian Times, Turkey, contact with the Russian ambassador or other countries he was involved. This just seems so blatantly political to just release this list without any background just to generate a possible conspiracy. The release of names and the Flynn motion just look like it was contrived as a stunt.
How can one "unmask" a call that has not happened yet?
Look and read the released names & dates carefully. Look at the dates of the requests. Look at the date of the suppose phone call.
How does that happen, unless there was a bunch of unmasking happening before the phone call.
Hell, it could be proved, they were spying on Flynn with impunity, without authorization from any judge or FISA warrant.
Why is Aug. 16th 2016 so important?
Was there a back channel spying on Flynn and direct lining it into the Brennan/whitehouse?
Why is there no log of this call? Where is the recording? Where's the transcript?
McCabe testified there isn't any.
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Old 05-14-2020, 12:33 PM
 
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How can one "unmask" a call that has not happened yet?
Look and read the released names & dates carefully. Look at the dates of the requests. Look at the date of the suppose phone call.
How does that happen, unless there was a bunch of unmasking happening before the phone call.
Hell, it could be proved, they were spying on Flynn with impunity, without authorization from any judge or FISA warrant.
Why is Aug. 16th 2016 so important?
Was there a back channel spying on Flynn and direct lining it into the whitehouse?
Why is there no log of this call? Where is the recording? Where's the transcript?
When did the unmasking start?
Why not release the full list of those that requested unmasking?
Why piecemeal this stuff out?
Why release partial list?
Why not list the justification used for unmasking for each request?

This stuff was released by a Barr Hand picked DNI and the best they could do is release conspiracy theory worthy information? This is the best cherry picking they could do then Flynn just flat lied and this is all nonsense.

My dog could have cherry picked better evidence then these guys.
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Old 05-14-2020, 12:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Watch and see for Sydney Powell to file a "Writ of Mandamus," which would allow her to then appeal this action directly to the circuit court to force Judge Sullivan to carry out his duties as required by the law and the US Constitution:
A (writ of) mandamus is an order from a court to an inferior government official ordering the government official to properly fulfill their official duties or correct an abuse of discretion.

According to the U.S. Attorney Office, "Mandamus is an extraordinary remedy, which should only be used in exceptional circumstances of peculiar emergency or public importance."
Look at this gem...


https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/polit...nce/index.html


Was Flynn really unmasked? Or is it worse.


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Washington (CNN)British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.

The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.

So, Brennan, Clapper & Obama had foreign bach channels spying on Flynn and feeding them.
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Old 05-14-2020, 12:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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When did the unmasking start?
Why not release the full list of those that requested unmasking?
Why piecemeal this stuff out?
Why release partial list?
Why not list the justification used for unmasking for each request?

This stuff was released by a Barr Hand picked DNI and the best they could do is release conspiracy theory worthy information? This is the best cherry picking they could do then Flynn just flat lied and this is all nonsense.

My dog could have cherry picked better evidence then these guys.
The full 3 page list is available. Your sources failed to show you or where to go get it yourself.


Because Flynn was never "unmasked"
How can one request an unmasking of a phone call and there has yet to have taken place.
There are no unmasking request on the day of the phone call and Andy McCabe testified, there is no recording or call log of this Flynn phone call in question, they they accused him of lying about....


Funny
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Washington (CNN)British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.

The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.
Illegal back channeling and colluding with a foreign power. A John O. Brennan Black Ops....
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Old 05-14-2020, 12:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Look at this gem...

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/polit...nce/index.html

Was Flynn really unmasked? Or is it worse.

So, Brennan, Clapper & Obama had foreign bach channels spying on Flynn and feeding them.
You are upset that intelligence agencies share information they intercept?

BTW, how many Russian contacts did previous Presidents have when running for office? How many people on their staff were openly bragging about Russian other Eastern European connections?

Carter?
Reagan?
Bush 1?
Bush 2?
Obama?

Perhaps the reason Trump's campaign stood out so much is the fact that No other person that has run for President had a staff members like Flynn, Papadopoulos, and Manafort who all were willing to do near anything for a buck from Foreign Powers.

Most at least get into office before hiring the international crooks, Trump put them in charge of his campaign.
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:12 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Only the morally bankrupt would look upon a perjury trap used against innocent citizens, as the rule of law. I don't know your personal story but I'll just assume that you're just massively uninformed and all you've done is watched MSNBC and CNN CBS Etc
If the goal of the perjury trap and forcing Flynn out was to create unnecessary chaos they sure did. I always grew up with the idea that one of the great things about America was the civilized transfer of power. I guess the Democrats made an exception here.
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:14 PM
 
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So do you have a link that supports your claim, why do so many people make claims they cant back up.

I don't know, but what I do know, is that I have asked many times for links from anti-trumpers to back up their claim with a link.....I'm told to pound sand...or google is your friend....
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You are upset that intelligence agencies share information they intercept?

On Americans.... as in spying on them, without warrant. You mean a Back Ops? 5EYES? John O. Brennan?

That is criminal.


Obama's "Operation Hammer" Look it up.


https://www.statedepartmentwatch.org...on-be-exposed/
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