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Old 05-11-2020, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Don't watch any of the above mentioned channels but it does seem odd that with this President there are 200+ right leaning news sources that only print towards his favor not to mention his unfiltered stream of tweets which provide the basis for the above mentioned channels to bash.

Doesn't it strike you as odd that people (not just hardcore Dems) are willing to vote for a candidate that as you say "Dem's haven't a clue what they are voting FOR"? The unknown must look better for them than voting for what they have now...
I have not had cable tv for 5+years, so I can't watch them. I have an antenna to watch local networks, but seldom turn on the tv at all anymore...except for sports. I watch ~1/2 hr of TV/week if averaged out annually.

Donald's Tweets...90% of the MSM's coverage of him is negative. Why not do an end-around on them, and communicate directly to Americans? Why give the MSM any material to boost their ratings? His tweets are a sound strategy. I dont do Twitter. What he tweets is a different story, and I'm not defending that...just the tactic to bypass the MSM. I also like how he ditched the White House press conferences, until C-19 came along.

Dems are voting against Trump, and that's it. You are right, even the totally unknown is better than Trump to them. They are filled with hatred. Its all emotions with them, nothing concrete...like proposed budgets.

 
Old 05-11-2020, 06:05 AM
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If they keep the House and take the Senate they will be like kids in a candy store. That would keep Trump at Mar-a- Lago for four years while the adults run the country.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 06:07 AM
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Location: New York Area
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Donald's Tweets...90% of the MSM's coverage of him is negative. Why not do an end-around on them, and communicate directly to Americans? Why give the MSM any material to boost their ratings? His tweets are a sound strategy. I dont do Twitter. What he tweets is a different story, and I'm not defending that...just the tactic to bypass the MSM. I also like how he ditched the White House press conferences, until C-19 came along.
As an aside, Trump ran the first genuinely Internet-based campaign and Presidency-over Twitter. It sucks that the party I love, the progressive one, is so far behind.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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If they keep the House and take the Senate they will be like kids in a candy store. That would keep Trump at Mar-a- Lago for four years while the adults run the country.
It would become Veto-ville. Nothing would get done except for Trump appointing another 100 federal judges tothe 200 he's already installed.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 06:28 AM
 
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The vast majority of media coverage comes from the MSM, CNN, MSNBC, and it's almost all Trump bashing....(I read 90% of Trumps coverage is negative), or at least the clips I see on the Internet (I don't have cable tv).

All hate speech, and very litle talk about Democrats plan for the future. They have brainwashed voters into voting on hate, rather than a better way forward. Biden hasn't even proposed a budget yet, hasn't proposed how we deal with C-19, or China, of bringing back the economy. Dem's haven't a clue what they are voting FOR.



This.
They knew last time what they were voting against and they didn't win.
They need to come up with an alternative vision.
Change ...
 
Old 05-11-2020, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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I have not had cable tv for 5+years, so I can't watch them. I have an antenna to watch local networks, but seldom turn on the tv at all anymore...except for sports. I watch ~1/2 hr of TV/week if averaged out annually.

Donald's Tweets...90% of the MSM's coverage of him is negative. Why not do an end-around on them, and communicate directly to Americans? Why give the MSM any material to boost their ratings? His tweets are a sound strategy. I dont do Twitter. What he tweets is a different story, and I'm not defending that...just the tactic to bypass the MSM. I also like how he ditched the White House press conferences, until C-19 came along.

Dems are voting against Trump, and that's it. You are right, even the totally unknown is better than Trump to them. They are filled with hatred. Its all emotions with them, nothing concrete...like proposed budgets.
Your right the tweets are direct and unfiltered but he can't complain that he is taken out of context either which he does often like equality it is a double edged sword. Filled with hatred is not the right way to say it, filled with disappointment would be a better way to say it they are tired of his combative nature. As we have seen too often during this crisis he wants the praise but not the criticism, he wants to own the positive but not the negatives and depending on the week it was the Federal Governments responsibility or then the states responsibility. I think people just want adult leadership and that has been lacking.

Proposed budget, I don't recall any proposed budget from candidate Trump during the last go round. Now he is President and has to submit one that's just a responsibility of the office.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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On the agenda for what's next for Democrats (if Trump is re-elected) should be for Democrat Governors of Blue States to shore up their pandemic preparedness. ALL of the top 5 most deadly states for C-19 are Blue states, and 9 of the top 10. D-. So much of that tax money wasted on the wrong stuff.
How about all states will have to shore up the pandemic response because its has been demonstrated that the federal government is passing the buck. Of course next time we may not have any Federal Agencies left to alert us. How about the top 5 are some of the largest population centers in the country and 3 of top 10 are Republican, so what. If the federal government had taken charge and set the standards for the state to copy then the waste that you speak of would have been less, every state had to scramble for supplies this week, got some the next for the most part they were left to their own devices.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:28 AM
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It would become Veto-ville. Nothing would get done except for Trump appointing another 100 federal judges to the 200 he's already installed.
Judges don't matter that much because for the most part American society is a bit lawless and many people (rich and poor) will do whatever they want regardless if it is against the law. The Constitution is a stop gap for Judges anyway. That's why Roe V wade has lasted through many conservative administrations.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Democrats need to do some soul searching if Trump wins....again


Democrats went from winning and electing a first black President name Barrack HUSSEIN Obama to losing (not once but twice) to a reality-TV-star-commander-in-twitter Donald Trump.

Time to sit down to evaluate yourself and do some soul searching.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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How has he bungled it ?
He closed down flights into the US and got criticised for it.
And now he's getting criticised for states taking their own decision when to end lockdown.
I've a feeling the Democrats are going to be in for another shock come November ...
All he did was close down some flights. A good number of Chinese still came through and American citizens weren't exactly asked to stay quarentined. After he closer it, he dismissed Covid-19 and said there wasn't a problem and it the media was talking about I was just to make him look bad. This was in the infamous Feb 28th rally. He only took it serious when Wall Street cratered on March 11th, yet he couldn't call it an economic disaster and still don't. Again because it makes him look bad. Not the country, him. He needs to go back and listen to JFK's inauguration speech.

As for the stay at home orders ending, the biggest criticism I can see pinned to Trump are encouraging the protests where social distancing wasn't in place. He also is said to Hell with most of the guidelines. He said governors are on their own with a lot of things. I'm sorry but there needs to be federal leadership and Trump is showing he is incapable of it.

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As an aside, Trump ran the first genuinely Internet-based campaign and Presidency-over Twitter. It sucks that the party I love, the progressive one, is so far behind.
That is because both parties are run by corporate interests. Bernie tried internet both times but was stopped by the Corporate interests of the center/center-left.
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