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Old 05-11-2020, 07:47 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Maybe this is acceptable in states like Florida and Georgia but I would hope that would not be the case in your state. Two people in a pickup truck playing vigilante would certainly draw community opposition in just about every state.
That's emotional thinking. What does the law say?

 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:47 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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There was no burglary.
I posted a link to the burglary definition in Georgia. He was a burglar.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:48 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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There is no evidence he was on the work site.
There's video of it. 100% confirmed. The victim's Mother identified him in the video.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:51 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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And here's the thing -- even if the guy was stealing a hammer --- there is no justification for anybody being killed for stealing a hammer.
No one disagrees with this point. Also, he may not have stolen the hammer. He may have brought it with him as a weapon? We know he liked to be armed, as he had two previous gun convictions.

The entire crux of the incident is this: Did Arbery attack the shooter & try to take his gun away from him?
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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You are arguing that the person being chased by at least 2 carloads of loaded gun toting guys willing to kill him is the aggressor ????
Well, yeah. Even if you have a gun, if I choose to charge at you and start throwing punches, I'm the aggressor...and in that scenario, you'd be a fool NOT to shoot me.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:53 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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It's been a while since I've been on CD & am having trouble posting the pics. It won't let me select from my own files, only insert url's & the url is from reddit, so not sure if it breaks policy here.

https://i.redd.it/97dp66595qx41.jpg
Here's the 911 call. At 0:53 you'll hear the former cop yelling at Arbery to "drop it". It's believed "it" is the hammer he'd been carrying that lies in the road.

https://youtu.be/hbovUB1Oa1A
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:54 AM
 
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No one disagrees with this point. Also, he may not have stolen the hammer. He may have brought it with him as a weapon? We know he liked to be armed, as he had two previous gun convictions.

The entire crux of the incident is this: Did Arbery attack the shooter & try to take his gun away from him?
What hammer?
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:55 AM
 
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Here's the video of it. 100% confirmed. The victim's Mother identified him in the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1259226245864308738
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:56 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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What hammer?
The hammer I linked a page back. Go check it out.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 07:59 AM
 
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The hammer I linked a page back. Go check it out.
That is just reddit showing what some think is a hammer. It also says he was wearing boots, which he clearly was not. Look at the video of him inside the house. No boots, no hammer. Was he hiding them up his anus?
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