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View Poll Results: Was it murder
Yes 299 58.86%
No 68 13.39%
Don't know/let's wait and see as more evidence is gathered 141 27.76%
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Old 05-11-2020, 10:11 AM
 
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very much this.
we all know the media tries to spin things, so waiting for more evidence is the most prudent thing to do at this point.
The media actually lied in the very beginning in February.
It was reported that he was killed by the "Homeowner " while robbing a house.

The image one gets from that is an armed robber breaking and entering a normal house and getting shot by the homeowner.
So it was case closed, until the video surfaced and proved the media, DA and Hillbillys as liars.

 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You are arguing that the person charging a person and throwing punches is not the aggressor ????
You are arguing that a guy who has been chasing someone even after they changed directions, caught up to them, stopped in the middle of the road with a loaded gun in front of them and ordered you to stop isnt the aggressor ??????
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:14 AM
 
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I never said "premeditated murder", I said willing to kill him. Since it has been stated multiple times that you dont shoot to wound and that you shouldnt pick up a gun unless willing to use it, it is a reasonable assumption that these 2 men absolutely were willing to kill him.

Remember, they didnt just have guns in their cars and saw him, they point blank went to get guns, followed, and then stopped him.

Also, there are unconfirmed reports that the guy videoing was with them,and that he wasnt the only one in that car. So at least 2 cars.



Why is it you think the person with a gun should fear for his life, but not the guy who has at least 2 people with guns chasing him shouldnt ?

and you cant claim he didnt know they had guns either.
Considering the driver was videotaping and struggling to keep the subjects in the video, it seems unlikely there's a second person in the car. It seems they'd be the ones taking cell phone video, not the driver.

And yes, the guy following and videoing was there with the McMichaels - they knew him by name, and identified him in the police report at the time of the incident.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:14 AM
 
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Yes, but Arbery is clearly the escalator. If he hadn't attacked the man with the gun, he'd still be alive.
Agreed. Although, the rednecks really had no right to do what they did. Had Arbery been armed, and well trained, we'd be possibly looking at two dead rednecks right now. How would the headlines have read then ?

Bad decisions were made all around. Someone ended up dead. It wasn't premeditated but they put themselves into that position.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Wait what out? You have three people surrounding you with loaded guns. What are you waiting for? Waiting to see which one will shoot you first?
For the authorities to show up. Or to communicate with each other. Waiting to see who shors first in anothe absurd comment of yours as if that is what would have happened if the criminal stood still.

Keep making things up, it's good for a laugh.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:15 AM
 
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What happened here was two rednecks who "just had to kill 'em something." That something was
Ahmaud Arbery. Why would these two rednecks need a gun to confront one black man who was clearly not armed? Why didn't they call the police? Arbery was on foot and they could have easily followed him in a vehicle. Without a doubt these rednecks attacked and killed a black man for no other reason than he was black.

Even if Arbery was involved in a burglary these two had no right to stop him. They could have called the police and followed him until the police arrived. Instead they pulled a gun on an unarmed man and killed him. Murder it was, plain and simple.

Worse yet was the two month delay in arresting these murderers. The state needs to investigate the local town police and district attorney for an attempted coverup. It was a HATE CRIME and should be prosecuted as such.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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Considering the driver was videotaping and struggling to keep the subjects in the video, it seems unlikely there's a second person in the car. It seems they'd be the ones taking cell phone video, not the driver.

And yes, the guy following and videoing was there with the McMichaels - they knew him by name, and identified him in the police report at the time of the incident.
Looked to me like he was pointing in the direction he thought that Abery was going, and then had to pan back.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:17 AM
 
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for the authorities to show up.
He has no phone to call them, and has no reason to believe they are coming. The McDaniels did not say police were on the way, which they were, only minutes behind them. That is the first thing I would say.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:17 AM
 
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This is the sort of thread where the gun-backers (I'm being polite) undermine their position so very, very deeply.

If you're of the mindset that anyone not willing to play "Simon Says" in front of a random gun-waving weirdo deserves death, you shouldn't be allowed to carry firearms in public. You do not have the maturity to make deadly-force decisions. I don't believe your high-faluting talk about protecting yourself and your neighborhood, this is about power.
 
Old 05-11-2020, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You are arguing that a guy who has been chasing someone even after they changed directions, caught up to them, stopped in the middle of the road with a loaded gun in front of them and ordered you to stop isnt the aggressor ??????
lol No I'm not arguing that at all. That you deflect and make things up is par for the course for your posts.

The criminal made the mistake by attacking someone with a gun.
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