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Yes. I have already said that multiple times in this thread.
Thank you for your admission. I appreciate it.
Question: If you do this (and I have no doubt in my mind that you don't) under what moral/logical reasoning do you believe this to be appropriate behavior?
No it is not wrong, since you have to prove intent for a burglary charge, and the McMichaels did not know the victims intent and thus can not claim that he was in the act of a felony. They can not chase him down and try to arrest him for a misdemeanor that they did not even witness, since they only saw him running down the road and per their statement to the police thought he looked like a suspect in earlier break ins.
Thinking that someone is a suspect does not meet the requirements of the citizens arrest law in GA.
The black guy did not steal anything in this case. What was the occupation of the murderer? I have not seen anything on that either.
There was probably nothing worth taking in the place. I don't believe he was jogging, I beleive he went there to see if anything worth stealing was lying around. Logic supports this belief, based upon the facts: he was at the house before, he was walking until he left it, he was wearing footwear no jogger would don to go for a run.
Good point re: the employment status of the white morons; the son looks like a CroMagnon, I wonder if he has a decent job. All three were dumba**es in my opinion.
As kids, we use to play around construction sites.
It was like a big clubhouse to meet.
Guess we should have all been killed off.
He wasn't killed for trespassing on a construction site. You should probably catch up on the story and at least know what happened. ANd if you would have been any other race, you being killed would not have made the national news and there woudl be no protests.
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Most things to steal from a construction site would be heavy equipment that a jogger would not be able to take. At most he was scoping out things to steal later with a car. Again, no reason for the level of aggressive confrontation the White men initiated.
If telling the truth is "victim blaming", well, then I guess it is.
This isn't a case where for example a young man was driving at night and his car ran off the road and hit a tree and he died. In which case, digging through his past driving history and publishing his BAL or autopsy reports would be unnecessary, and not the least helpful for the public to know all that, as no decisions of criminal charges need to be considered.
If you've got a case here where a man has died, and other men are facing charges of murder, then it's important to see it from their perspective TOO, so that appropriate charges can be laid or not.
This case isn't just about Arbery. It's about the McMichaels, too, and by extension might make case law in Georgia as far as criteria for a citizens arrest.
I agree with you, that this case is about the McMichaels and their perspective. But I take issue when you put out information that is not factual, but biased. For instance, when you say that the owner of the property is covering his own interests when he states publicly and for the record that he had no relationship with the McMichaels, and that he didn't share his video with them. To believe he is lying about that suggests that you have an agenda.
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I agree with you, that this case is about the McMichaels and their perspective. But I take issue when you put out information that is not factual, but biased. For instance, when you say that the owner of the property is covering his own interests when he states publicly and for the record that he had no relationship with the McMichaels, and that he didn't share his video with them. To believe he is lying about that suggests that you have an agenda.
I don't believe the homeowner is lying, at all.
And yes, I maintain he is trying as hard as he possibly can to distance himself from this incident, even stating he'll never live there after this.
He's gotten death threats over this, for God's sake. How awful.
He's making a very very clear statement that he wants nothing at all to do with this case, and that he didn't share the video.
I believe him.
At this point, since he states he shared the video with LE when it happened, I believe that LE shared it with Greg McMichaels and they're not admitting it. There's SOME way - not through English, the homeowner - but through someone, that McMichaels saw that video before Feb. 23 and recognized Arbery on it. Additionally, I believe English may have shared the video with a different neighbor, who shared it with McMichaels.
There was probably nothing worth taking in the place. I don't believe he was jogging, I beleive he went there to see if anything worth stealing was lying around. Logic supports this belief, based upon the facts: he was at the house before, he was walking until he left it, he was wearing footwear no jogger would don to go for a run.
Good point re: the employment status of the white morons; the son looks like a CroMagnon, I wonder if he has a decent job. All three were dumba**es in my opinion.
What evidence do you have that he was there before.
I seen one youtuber with an image at night but no close ups to confirm it was the same person.
We did this all the time when we were building and even after we moved into our home. We got in at the early stage of our subdivision so I went into practically every home built after mine. My neighbors who were here before me, went into mine during the build stage. My realtor was the one who suggested we do this to get ideas. She suggested we go into new developments under construction by my builder and if we saw something we like to note the development name and lot number. That way when we went to the design center ,we could tell them I want the same paint color in the kitchen as in the development and lot number. My spouse is from the Brunswick area and we even visited new builds in that area. It is very common in GA.
Question: If you do this (and I have no doubt in my mind that you don't) under what moral/logical reasoning do you believe this to be appropriate behavior?
OMG. People do it because they are nosy, curious, because they are interested in the workmanship involved. People may be building their own homes, or plan on building their own homes one day. It's appropriate because many, many people do it, and don't get shot for doing it. It's appropriate because builders often anticipate there will be looky-loos. I've seen signs posted, telling looky-loos that the builder will not responsible for any accidents that occur, I've seen signs posted, telling looky-loos that there are video cameras on site, so feel free to look, but don't take. It's not unusual. You may have never done it, but there is a great big world out there, and millions of people do check out construction sites, especially of residential housing.
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