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Old 05-13-2020, 07:06 AM
 
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If you are driving on Satilla and go straight though the intersection with Holmes, you’re on Buford.

The point, and it’s a minor one, is that this all took place along a relatively short distance on a single roadway.
Nope, the road forks a little past Holmes to the left is Burford to the right Saltilla continues. Saltilla doesn't turn into Burford since Saltilla continues past that point.

 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:07 AM
 
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Clearly he did not leap into the cab of the pickup truck to attack someone riding by.


McMichaels stopped his truck ahead of Arbery and got out, shotgun in hand, to confront Arbery.


No private citizen has a right to do that in Georgia, absent having seen a crime in commission.
Is it legal to stand in a roadway with a gun in your hand in an open carry state like GA? If it is, than is it also legal to do so absent seeing a crime in commission?
 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:18 AM
 
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In the video that I saw, we see Arbery running along the road, in a gentle left turn. The parked truck then comes into view, and Arbery runs toward it. Is there video that shows the alternative events that you are describing?
There's McMichaels' statement, in the police report.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:19 AM
 
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Did you look at the house? Once Arbery enters it, you can't see him anymore until he exits. This isn't like one of those framed in houses that most in the public feel entitled to walk through. The exterior of the house looked pretty much finished to me - front door and walls and all.
The February 23 video of Arbery in the house shows open construction, just the wood frame. It's not anywhere close to being finished.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:21 AM
 
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Is it legal to stand in a roadway with a gun in your hand in an open carry state like GA? If it is, than is it also legal to do so absent seeing a crime in commission?

And by that logic you are trying to weaken "stand-your-ground."


You are being disingenuous if you try to claim that blocking the road, getting out of the vehicle with a gun in hand, and shouting commands is anything other than initiating an armed confrontation.


It's only in non-gun forums like this that anyone tries to make such a silly assertion as yours. People who actually carry guns know better, so you don't see a silly assertion like yours made among people who actually carry guns.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:21 AM
 
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Nope, the road forks a little past Holmes to the left is Burford to the right Saltilla continues. Saltilla doesn't turn into Burford since Saltilla continues past that point.
You’re clearly seeing the correct intersection, so I’m not sure why this is so hard. If one drives straight through the intersection on Holmes, the name of that roadway changes to Satilla. If one drives as straight as possible through the intersection on Satilla, the name of that roadway changes to Buford. And with as much as you’re trying to obfuscate what actually happened here, it all took place on a short stretch of a single roadway, in spite of the wonky road name changes.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:21 AM
 
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Yep, that certainly is an issue. But shades of light or dark are much more easily seen as opposed to details such as low or high tops, for example. I think the video of the shooting may show high tops. But it is much easier to see dark rather than light colored footwear.
He was clearly shown on good quality video wearing sneakers. When do you think he changed shoes? While in the house for those 3 minutes? While being chased around the neighborhood?

OR

Maybe the shooting video quality was crap and in a shaded area so shadows and poor grainy quality made it look like he magically had on different shoes than he was clearly shown to have on just a little bit earlier.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:24 AM
 
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It’s a single roadway that changes names. What possible reason could you have for continuing this false narrative, other than trying to create an image of Arbery being chased all over the neighborhood, rather than this happening on a short stretch of a single roadway?

The intersection of Satilla, Buford, and Holmes is a little weird, but Arbery clearly wasn’t chased down three different streets.
Nope.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/21...1!4d-81.556897

From 219 Saltilla then down Burford, then back to Holmes.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:27 AM
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The February 23 video of Arbery in the house shows open construction, just the wood frame. It's not anywhere close to being finished.
No. Here's the video of the house. It's the house across the street, with the red portapotty in front of it.

The house looks complete - it's not just a "wood frame". At 13:21 in the video, is when you see Arbery approach and go in the garage.


https://www.firstcoastnews.com/artic...c-3a3d517b19ed
 
Old 05-13-2020, 07:27 AM
 
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And by that logic you are trying to weaken "stand-your-ground."


You are being disingenuous if you try to claim that blocking the road, getting out of the vehicle with a gun in hand, and shouting commands is anything other than initiating an armed confrontation.


It's only in non-gun forums like this that anyone tries to make such a silly assertion as yours. People who actually carry guns know better, so you don't see a silly assertion like yours made among people who actually carry guns.
The only thing I’m trying to do is to get a question answered. And your response is that true gun guys would understand this.

I didn’t make any claims nor assertions. I asked a simple question. Is there a reason why you won’t answer it?
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