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Old 05-08-2020, 02:13 PM
 
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The burglary was a gun stolen from Travis McMichael. Dad forgot to lock the truck with the gun in it.

They had it in for someone.


https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/lo...dc8f879f8.html
These men claimed that there were a set of burglaries in that area. As I posted previously...

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The Glynn County Police Department said Thursday that it had no reports involving burglaries or home break-ins in the Satilla Shores neighborhood between Jan. 1 and Feb. 23.*However, local media reported that one burglary, an automobile burglary, was reported to police in the Satilla Shores neighborhood during that time period.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...un/3091673001/

They lied.

 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:14 PM
 
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That's a definition of immediate. I think we all know what immediate means.

I'm looking for a definition of "immediate knowledge", which you will surely be able to find, and it doesn't mean you witnessed something.
That's the LEGAL definition of "immediate". "Immediate" is an adjective in the case of "immediate knowledge", and the definition I supplied would apply. I think combining them means that a person has to KNOW something and has to act on that knowledge without hesitation. While it may not require that the person be a witness, it does require that the person's knowledge be actual knowledge, and not just suspicions.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:15 PM
 
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Phrases mean something, TBCasino.

I don't know what they intended to mean, but when you write a law, you better be sure you've written it correctly.

And to say a person can affect a Citizen's Arrest if they witness or have immediate knowledge of a crime, you better be sure the term "immediate knowledge" doesn't already have a meaning, and it's the opposite of what you're trying to say.

If they intended the law to be that you had to witness a felony in progress, they should have said that. And not said the opposite.

But I'm done with this discussion of the term "Immediate Knowledge". It must be boring everyone else to tears, and in fact, you might be right - that the lawmakers had no idea what that term means and had no intention of saying what they've said.

(And my guess is, this WILL come up in the trial of these men. The term "immediate knowledge of a crime" allowing for a citizens arrest).
Of course they do, and you don't have to be a lawyer to understand what the law means. If you read it, it doesn't say just witness, it goes a little more in depth. I hope it does come up in trial and I have a feeling it won't be the psychology class meaning.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:15 PM
 
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Good of a place as any to stash something.
On what planet?

Because a house under construction isn't known for hiding places or security.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:19 PM
 
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As I posted previously...
You didn't quote that the theft victim was the shooter, and the item stolen was a gun.

That makes things a little more sketchy to me.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:21 PM
 
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Of course they do, and you don't have to be a lawyer to understand what the law means. If you read it, it doesn't say just witness, it goes a little more in depth. I hope it does come up in trial and I have a feeling it won't be the psychology class meaning.
It will come up because the Arbery family's lawyer is already tearing it apart.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:21 PM
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This is an interesting link. It appears to show the house that's "under construction", but no well-meaning person would enter that house. It's clearly a house, not a construction project in the beginnings. it's a home.

Also, the reporter notes that neighbors talk about numerous recent break-ins.

I don't know why that doesn't match with articles where they say only one recent break in was reported.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/us/ah...ake/index.html
 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:22 PM
 
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You didn't quote that the theft victim was the shooter, and the item stolen was a gun.

That makes things a little more sketchy to me.
I posted about the police department. That was not confirmed by PD. Furthermore, the men still lied. There was no set of burglaries in the area. No one reported break-in for the area for the year.

They wanted an excuse to kill someone and so they lied.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:22 PM
 
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You didn't quote that the theft victim was the shooter, and the item stolen was a gun.

That makes things a little more sketchy to me.
Even if everything is true, they said a break in and burglary. There was one break in and car burglary. That confirms their story. The break in of the house was number two that we know about.
 
Old 05-08-2020, 02:23 PM
 
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It will come up because the Arbery family's lawyer is already tearing it apart.
Yes, I’m sure he’s doing his very, very best.
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