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Not a murder.
May be manslaughter, with an affirmative defense.
● MURDER : (Law) the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
● MANSLAUGHTER : (Law) The unlawful killing of one human by another without express or implied intent to do injury.
● HOMICIDE : (Law) the killing of a human being by another person.
● CITIZENS ARREST : an arrest made by a private citizen whose authority derives from the fact of citizenship.
● RESISTING ARREST : (Law) physical efforts to oppose a lawful arrest; the resistance is classified as assault and battery upon the person of the police officer attempting to make the arrest.
● SELF DEFENSE : (Law) The right to protect oneself against violence or threatened violence with whatever force or means are reasonably necessary.
● AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE : An affirmative defense to a civil lawsuit or criminal charge is a fact or set of facts other than those alleged by the plaintiff or prosecutor which, if proven by the defendant, defeats or mitigates the legal consequences of the defendant's otherwise unlawful conduct. In criminal prosecutions, examples of affirmative defenses are self defense, insanity, and the statute of limitations.
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FUGITIVE - Running away or fleeing, as from the law.
Fugitives are an EXCEPTED CLASS, and have few protections in the law.
This is hilarious, especially after you brought up intellectual honesty.
It’s OK that you want to remain uninformed about the issues. Just own it.
I simply recognize that laws can have necessary conditions. If the condition isn’t met (or violated), the law hasn’t been broken. Do you really not understand that? You don’t even need to go to law school to understand that one.
This is especially hilarious when one recalls how insistent you were that Arbery hadn’t trespassed, due to not meeting the legal requirements for trespass.
This thread delivers, and it just keeps getting better.
Please explain how you think I was being intellectually dishonest.
I dont consider myself uninformed because I'm not researching GA law over whether or not it was legal for them to be standing in the roadway with their parked truck. I dont need to research to know that violates one or more laws in GA and probably most other states.
If you need the law to be informed research it yourself.
As for what the law has to spell out, do you not understand that the law is sometimes open to interpretation by a jury.
The exact charge the McMichaels are facing is open to interpretation with very few specifics/conditions spelled out in the law.
Based on the videos, it is a fact that several individuals entered the house under construction.
It is thought by some that Ahmaud entered the house to drink water. Others believe that Ahmaud entered the house to steal something. If Ahmaud did indeed enter the house to drink water, then his finger prints would probably be on the faucet handle.
Fact, the owner of the house did not report any property was destroyed or missing.
Ahmaud appears to resume jogging after exiting the house. Others believe that he was running away (and not jogging) after stealing something from the house. Or, individuals state that he trespassed and therefore the pursuit was justified.
It appears that Ahmaud was pursued by more than one individual in at least two vehicles. In one of the vehicles were two armed men - one with a shotgun and one with a handgun. Hence, there are four weapons being used - a shotgun, a hand gun and two vehicles!
It appears that the pursuit was a prolonged one. Hence, it appears reasonable that it would cause anxiety and fear for the individual being pursued.
But, some individuals are adamant that Ahmaud did not experience any anxiety and/or fear because he is the attacker in this case as if he is some sort of "beast" who does not experience fear and of superhuman abilities who is attacking someone with a shotgun!
Where have we heard this before?
So, after being pursued for several minutes and then not only being cutoff by one of the vehicles, the driver exits with a shotgun!
Behind Ahmaud is a another vehicle that participated in the pursuit that contains another individual that is filming the events on a cell phone.
By the way, a some-what similar incident happened to me when I was about 24 years old. As a friend and I walked to a small store in a mid-sized Southern town, a white man drove a pickup truck toward us and drove around in circles around us about 6 times hollering and screaming! At first, I am standing somewhat shocked and assuming that at any moment, the driver was going to hit us with the truck. After about a minute and a half, the driver speeds off! Happened so fast, we did not get a license plate number. My first time visiting this town. Have not been back since. But, if and when I visit again, I will not be as "surprised" as the first time that this occurred.
There was no violent attack Travis. What occurred was clearly in self-defense . It's completely ridiculous and clearly delusional to say that Arbury is a violent attacker when he is only clearly defending himself. FACT Arbery is being chased down in a car by two men with weapons . That is a fact that they are the aggressors. It's a fact that only person who was violently attacked was Arbery. Generally people who have guns and are chasing other people are the aggressors . That is just basic facts. Facts is you can safely say The two men with a gun are the aggressors not the ones being attacked. The one being chased is not the aggressor and not attacking but trying to defend himself obviously. Usually in the real world the people that are being chased are not the aggressors. The people who are doing the chasing are the aggressor. Is a real-world aggressors cannot be attacked. Arbery can only try to defend himself against his violent attackers. The two men were violently chasing him down in a car. There is only so much you can do either try to get away or a defend yourself. And they have him cornered so he had no choice but to defend himself.
There is a lot wrong here, and I suspect you will be disappointed by the application of the law.
But the bold is such patent nonsense and I hope the prosecution don't run with that line, because I want those bozos doing time.
He was not cornered, nor boxed in. He did have a choice. He had the choice most people would make when faced with the barrel of two guns. ie, Don't try to grab the gun. You will very likely get shot.
It is thought by some that Ahmaud entered the house to drink water. Others believe that Ahmaud entered the house to steal something. If Ahmaud did indeed enter the house to drink water, then his finger prints would probably be on the faucet handle.
As far as I can tell (and I admit i haven't researched it in depth) the "some" that think Arbery entered to drink water is the lawyer of the home owner. The reason being that in a video of Arbery trespassing on this property on another occasion weeks prior he can be seen to wipe his lips with his arm!.. Not that they saw him drinking..... and it was weeks prior.
This lawyer seems dubious to me based on this and other statements. I will not be surprised to hear of a connection between her and the lawyer for Arbery.
As far as I can tell (and I admit i haven't researched it in depth) the "some" that think Arbery entered to drink water is the lawyer of the home owner. The reason being that in a video of Arbery trespassing on this property on another occasion weeks prior he can be seen to wipe his lips with his arm!.. Not that they saw him drinking..... and it was weeks prior.
This lawyer seems dubious to me based on this and other statements. I will not be surprised to hear of a connection between her and the lawyer for Arbery.
She also said water could be heard running in the video, but I haven't seen a video released with sound.
I thought the whole disclosure was strange since it just brought her client back into the spotlight which he seemed to want to be out of.
Seems they would have just handed the video off to LEO if they thought it was relevant and keep quiet about it.
I agree. Something odd going on with most of her strategy and media engagement.
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You don’t even need to go to law school to understand that one. 
