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View Poll Results: Was it murder
Yes 299 58.86%
No 68 13.39%
Don't know/let's wait and see as more evidence is gathered 141 27.76%
Voters: 508. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-19-2020, 09:41 AM
 
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The context and the essence of that line of discussion is “what did the McMichals do that was illegal when they followed Arbery.” Your response does nothing to further that line of discussion, and is done to deflect away from what the discussion is actually about. Claiming that committing vehicular homicide while following Arbery would be a true statement. It is also intellectually dishonest in the extreme, as it has nothing to do with what the McMichaels actually did while following Arbery. Such a statement serves no purpose other than to attempt to deflect away from the reality of the situation.

Hope this helps you understand your intellectual dishonesty.
Thats a totally off the wall assessment on your part.

First, we dont know all the in/outs of what the McMichaels did/said that day.

What we do know is there was a chase......then they set up a roadblock. Chasing a pedestrian/runner with a truck is inherently dangerous on the face of it. Ditto standing in the middle of the road, with their car parked illegally, with the door open.

There is no deflection. What they were doing was dangerous in many different ways which is why they could have been charged under all the things I mentioned.

You are totally missing the point because you are too busy playing word games with people. They set up a situation that was illegal and dangerous and created a fear of serious injury which is why they now stand charged with murder and aggravated assault.

You asked me a general question. I gave you a general answer. Dont then come in here and say deflection

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Old 05-19-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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The McMichaels didn't cause Arbery to attack. It had nothing to do with the alleged crime. Arbery was shot because he choose to attack an armed McMichael. I hope the men you meet are actual men who don't do the dumb things like Arbery did and have Arberys criminal record.
Your position is that their pursuit of him, and then their stopping in front of him, and the driver getting out with a shotgun in hand, and when Arbery goes around the truck, McMichaels goes around the front of the truck as well, and none of that you perceive as threatening. It boggles the mind what you would think of as threatening if you were confronted by armed men.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:44 AM
 
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Your crazy assumption that they were in fear of their life. Ridiculous! If they were in fear they would have driven away!
Yep thats exactly what Travis did when he ran into Arbery two weeks earlier as he was coming out of the house under construction and claimed he thought he was armed.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:46 AM
 
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Your position is that their pursuit of him, and then their stopping in front of him, and the driver getting out with a shotgun in hand, and when Arbery goes around the truck, McMichaels goes around the front of the truck as well, and none of that you perceive as threatening. It boggles the mind what you would think of as threatening if you were confronted by armed men.
I notice how you omit the circumstances in order to push a false narrative.

He knew why they were doing what they were doing, he was not afraid of bodily injury, he was afraid of having to deal with the police.

When you try to frame things as if he was nothing more than a jogger out minding his own business who had no idea why people were doing the things they were doing, you are being dishonest.


That kind of dishonesty does not further the conversation.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:49 AM
 
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Not nearly as deadly as attacking a group of armed men that have clear intentions merely to prevent your escape and talk to you.

Suggesting otherwise will only encourage more gullible and stupid people to get themselves killed like this moron did.
So, when the guy wrestled the gun from the 2018 Waffle House shooter, he was a moron?
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:51 AM
 
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I went ahead and bolded all of the outright lies in your statement. Look how your case falls apart without them.
You dont think being chased with weapons should cause someone to fear serious bodily harm?
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:54 AM
 
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this is a smear attempt. None of this has anything to do with what happened that day. It also shows that trained police professionals were able to arrest him peacefully while the McMichaels' were trigger happy gun nuts.

These have nothing to do with anything. SMH
Yep......even though those trained local yokels were basically harassing him in the park video.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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So, when the guy wrestled the gun from the 2018 Waffle House shooter, he was a moron?
That was responding to someone attacking people with a firearm, not an unprovoked attack on someone merely for having a firearm.

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You dont think being chased with weapons should cause someone to fear serious bodily harm?
The fact that someone is armed is not a valid excuse to assault them. He knew why he was being followed, he was just chased out of a house that doesn't belong to him by a neighbor who was calling the cops and he saw that the guy in the bed of the truck was on the phone.....he was worried about legal trouble, not a physical attack.

Had he not attacked the man with the shotgun, there would have been no physical harm.

You simply have to have more than the mere fact that someone has a weapon to justify attacking them.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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That was responding to someone attacking people with a firearm, not an unprovoked attack on someone merely for having a firearm.



The fact that someone is armed is not a valid excuse to assault them. He knew why he was being followed, he was just chased out of a house that doesn't belong to him by a neighbor who was calling the cops and he saw that the guy in the bed of the truck was on the phone.....he was worried about legal trouble, not a physical attack.

Had he not attacked the man with the shotgun, there would have been no physical harm.

You simply have to have more than the mere fact that someone has a weapon to justify attacking them.
Arbery was being chased.

You are delusional if you think being chased by two guys with guns is not being threatened.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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We'll see how it's decided in a court of law. I'm hoping for maximum sentence. They need to be brought to justice for their wrongdoings. Make an example out of them, showing the 14.52% on this thread who actually believe they did nothing wrong that they in fact did everything wrong and are held accountable for their actions and wrongdoings.
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