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Old 06-04-2020, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Don't worry. The smear campaign is coming. Before this is over he will be "MS 13, Al Queda and ISIS" all wrapped into one. Superthug. Zimmerman defense.

 
Old 06-04-2020, 09:21 PM
 
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Don't worry. The smear campaign is coming. Before this is over he will be "MS 13, Al Queda and ISIS" all wrapped into one. Superthug. Zimmerman defense.
LOL ya we all know it's coming.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Various
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We learned that Roddy played a bigger role in this than he wanted everyone to believe. He was not innocent as he did a fair amount of chasing.

We also learned, although I am sure no one is surprised, that the murderer basically hated black people and called them slurs whenever he found a chance.

One interesting thing to me was that the murdering McMichaels all lived in the same house but gave different addresses on the police report. I wonder what that was about.
I think we already knew the first point, hence the charges against him and evidenced by the fact that he was part of the so called "boxing in". But yes I agree Roddy has been trying to minimise his role.

On the second point, I don't think it will be material to the case at the end of the day. And yes I also agree that we all are not surprised.

I hadn't picked up on the last point and don't really have an opinion on what it is about, but one must suspect there is a nefarious reason for it.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 09:39 PM
 
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One interesting thing to me was that the murdering McMichaels all lived in the same house but gave different addresses on the police report. I wonder what that was about.
This is easy. TM is a 35 year old living with his folks. He's embarrassed about it. Trust me, sometimes some people want to hide the silliest things that the rest of us wouldn't think much about.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Various
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This is easy. TM is a 35 year old living with his folks. He's embarrassed about it. Trust me, sometimes some people want to hide the silliest things that the rest of us wouldn't think much about.
Surely there is more to it than that. Wonder who lives at the false address.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 11:04 PM
 
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We learned that Roddy played a bigger role in this than he wanted everyone to believe. He was not innocent as he did a fair amount of chasing.

We also learned, although I am sure no one is surprised, that the murderer basically hated black people and called them slurs whenever he found a chance.

One interesting thing to me was that the murdering McMichaels all lived in the same house but gave different addresses on the police report. I wonder what that was about.
Travis has a child but is living with his parents and sister. Maybe his ex...the mother of his child.....lives in a house that is still jointly owned? Just guessing.
 
Old 06-04-2020, 11:05 PM
 
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I think we already knew the first point, hence the charges against him and evidenced by the fact that he was part of the so called "boxing in". But yes I agree Roddy has been trying to minimise his role.

On the second point, I don't think it will be material to the case at the end of the day. And yes I also agree that we all are not surprised.

I hadn't picked up on the last point and don't really have an opinion on what it is about, but one must suspect there is a nefarious reason for it.
I dont think it will be material to this case particularly. But, it may be material in a Federal hate crime charge/trial down the road.
 
Old 06-05-2020, 12:20 AM
 
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Oh, the revelation that a racial slur was directed at Ahmaud as he lay dying is VERY much relevant to the entire case.

It further seems to indicate that racial motives were very significant, and that it was was as much to get even with a Black individual for 'payback' as it was trying to 'detain' someone they suspected of being a thief.

Chasing after someone in a truck while armed, continuing to chase him as he tries to get away from the truck (and avoid confrontation), hit him, and then block his way, this was very much a personal vendetta.
 
Old 06-05-2020, 12:57 AM
 
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Oh, the revelation that a racial slur was directed at Ahmaud as he lay dying is VERY much relevant to the entire case.

It further seems to indicate that racial motives were very significant, and that it was was as much to get even with a Black individual for 'payback' as it was trying to 'detain' someone they suspected of being a thief.
How do you feel that conclusion can be drawn from that? I don't think a competent defence will have a problem dealing with that.
 
Old 06-05-2020, 01:52 AM
 
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Ahmaud Arbery was hit with a truck before he died, and his killer allegedly used a racial slur, investigator testifies https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/mcmichaels-hearing-ahmaud-arbery/index.html
Not surprised. Yet people are intent on defending those savages.
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