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Old 05-10-2020, 09:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't join the OP on this part of the post. Vaccines are a rational device to be compelled. For reasons that are too obvious to be stated.
Then once you have got your shot of god knows what, you will be immune. Why would it matter if I got a shot, of god knows what.


A vaccine is used to build immunity. So you understand, they will have to shoot you up with some amount of Kung Flu. Within the Kung Flu is strains of AIDS/HIV.

Just like the Flu Shot, has influenza in it.
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Old 05-10-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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I choose to be free. I choose to have liberty, how does that threaten your health if you choose to house arrest?


The same can be said about this rushed untested vaccine that is going to be forced upon you....
If you are vaccinated, why are you worried I'm not. You are immune..... right?

Our medical professionals are using the 1918 pandemic as a benchmark. We do not want another 20-50 million deaths. We have to try what we do know helps stop spread and look for answers to the mystery of what will halt covid.



i am not afraid of getting sick only because I do not fear death but I would not want to be responsible for the death of someone more vulnerable. It is ultimately compassion that makes our sacrifice bearable-putting others' welfare before our own.



Very good things are happening because by staying at home human impact on the environment is much less and it is a lesson for us. https://youtu.be/ysGGIxxrwuk
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Old 05-10-2020, 11:36 AM
 
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Then once you have got your shot of god knows what, you will be immune. Why would it matter if I got a shot, of god knows what.


A vaccine is used to build immunity. So you understand, they will have to shoot you up with some amount of Kung Flu. Within the Kung Flu is strains of AIDS/HIV.

Just like the Flu Shot, has influenza in it.
The bolded is complete and utter garbage, and destroys whatever minimal amount of credibility you might have had.

Vaccines these days generally use killed viruses, not live, so the risk of getting the disease itself is just about zero.
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Old 05-10-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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So Miami/Dade County, Broward, and Palm Beach restrictions are lifted the same as the rest of the state? You know, three of the most densely populated counties in Florida? Obviously rational people do believe restrictions work or those would have been lifted, wouldn't you agree?

Second, you're moving the goal line. You talked about states that have never had restrictions before. It does stand to reason that a state that had restrictions will have fewer cases. That is the very definition of the restrictions working. However, mark this thread: you're going to see a bit of a spike in the parts of Florida where the restrictions are lifting:
Mandated restrictions haven't worked (just ask New York). Intelligent people making intelligent decisions works much better as seen in Florida, Texas, Wyoming.
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Old 05-10-2020, 11:50 AM
 
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How about we talk about vaccines once they actually create the world's first safe and successful vaccine for a coronavirus?

Right now we might as well be talking about a perpetual motion machine.
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Old 05-10-2020, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Nice, France
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Coming from a guy who promotes Alex Jones...

Okay, recreation time is over, let the adults takes charge.
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Old 05-10-2020, 12:44 PM
 
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Mandated restrictions haven't worked (just ask New York). Intelligent people making intelligent decisions works much better as seen in Florida, Texas, Wyoming.
The parts of Texas that have the highest population density have been under mandatory restrictions. Some smaller towns and rural areas are starting to see more cases, especially if there are prisons in the area.
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Old 05-10-2020, 05:35 PM
 
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Mandated restrictions haven't worked (just ask New York). Intelligent people making intelligent decisions works much better as seen in Florida, Texas, Wyoming.

Google "causation vs correlation". You're welcome in advance.
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Old 05-10-2020, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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Mandated restrictions haven't worked (just ask New York). Intelligent people making intelligent decisions works much better as seen in Florida, Texas, Wyoming.
From IHME:

New York high: 9,987 (April 7)
New York current: 3,174 as of May 7
Now 31.7% of high

Florida high: 1,193 (April 4)
Florida current: 676 as of May 8
Now 56.6% of high

Texas high: 1,153 (May 8). Of note, April 7 was 879.
Texas current: 1,153 as of May 8
Now 100% of high

Wyoming high: 26 (April 6)
Wyoming current: 13 as of May 8
Now 50% of high


Work with me here...

Which % is the lowest of the states you named? Is it the state you held up as an example where mandated restrictions "haven't worked"? Are the numbers materially different?

You're certainly welcome to disagree, as there is quite a lag time with this virus. The evidence that restrictions work will be if states that have recently lifted restrictions generally see a spike, but states that remain under restriction generally see a drop.
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Old 05-10-2020, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Says the only poster that is actually locked in a cave.
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