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View Poll Results: Will Trump release the evidence it was a lab leak
Yes, all the world will soon know it was a lab leak 13 20.31%
No, he won't release the evidence bc it will scare ppl/conflict 4 6.25%
No, bc he has no evidence and is just diverting blame 32 50.00%
Yes, but people will call evidence "fake" or "insufficient" 15 23.44%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-08-2020, 09:08 PM
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The evidence is in the respective research articles, genius. Look it up yourself, Mr. Projectionist.

Still waiting on your evidence that it originated in a lab....any day now, Mr. Projectionist.
Already told you I have read it - I know their claims. I'm seeing if you do! It is obvious that you don't.

Again, I do not claim that there is evidence for a lab origin. Care to point out where I did - or is this another misrepresentation by you? I'm challenging your claims about the evidence these papers are presenting - they are no that clear and certainly not proof nor do they rule out a lab possibility at this time.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:08 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Lol, really. Is creating new laws for labs because of the incident involving the Wuhan Market a distraction too?

"On February 14, President Xi Jinping gave a speech to party leaders declaring China must "close the loopholes exposed by the epidemic". He announced the fast-tracking of a new law for "biosecurity at laboratories" specifically targeting the use of biological agents that "may harm national security". The law had been in the pipeline for some months and some experts say tightening security measures at laboratories is to be expected after an outbreak like this one."

I mean - if there is no lab leak - what loopholes is President Xi Jinping closing exactly?
Correlation isn’t causation.

Nor does the January paper in the New England Journal of Medicine claim that the virus was of lab origin.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:11 PM
 
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Correlation isn’t causation.

Nor does the January paper in the New England Journal of Medicine claim that the virus was of lab origin.
Well, as the labs defense attorney, I hope China is paying you well for the subterfuge. It amazes me that China and its scientists are seeming to be more open and honest than you are. Why is that?
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:11 PM
 
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I think there is a possibility it was a lab leak just based on the CCP's reputation and past atrocious human rights abuses and outstanding public health and safety failures,
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Luc Montagnier, the Man Who Discovered HIV, says that COVID19 is man-made in origin:

https://www.gilmorehealth.com/chines...iscovered-hiv/

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Professor Luc Montagnier, 2008 Nobel Prize winner for Medicine, claims that SARS-CoV-2 is a manipulated virus that was accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:12 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Already told you I have read it - I know their claims. I'm seeing if you do! It is obvious that you don't.

Again, I do not claim that there is evidence for a lab origin. Care to point out where I did - or is this another misrepresentation by you? I'm challenging your claims about the evidence these papers are presenting - they are no that clear and certainly not proof nor do they rule out a lab possibility at this time.
What’s “obvious“ is that you already have a conclusion in mind yet can’t provide one iota of supporting evidence.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ronavirus.html

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Wuhan laboratory scientists 'did absolutely crazy things' to alter coronavirus and enabled it to infect humans, Russian microbiologist claims
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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I don't think anyone is suggesting the virus originally came from a lab, they're merely suggesting that the virus was possibly altered in a lab to make it more lethal, e.g. altering the RNA to increase gain of function so it infects more hosts and is more lethal.

This type of research may have been going on at the Wuhan virology lab, which was located just a few hundred yards from the wet market in Wuhan where some of the first cases were traced back to.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:15 PM
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What’s “obvious“ is that you already have a conclusion in mind yet can’t provide one iota of supporting evidence.
The only conclusion I have is that the so-called evidence for proof is not proof nor does it rule out a lab origin. But I'll just start to present why instead of wasting more time on Goose Steppers....
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:19 PM
 
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I don't think anyone is suggesting the virus originally came from a lab, they're merely suggesting that the virus was possibly altered in a lab to make it more lethal, e.g. altering the RNA to increase gain of function so it infects more hosts and is more lethal.

This type of research may have been going on at the Wuhan virology lab, which was located just a few hundred yards from the wet market in Wuhan where some of the first cases were traced back to.
Would anyone care to speculate on why the lab would want to do that? Pest control maybe?
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