People are getting pissed off! (Freak out at Grocery Store) (interview, wisdom)

[Angel Calzadilla]

Originally Posted by blahblahyoutoo

but he couldn't be more wrong thinking that he has the "right to buy food" and that his "rights are being infringed"...
private businesses are free to deny service.

You stated literally "private business are free to deny service" Well it depends what type of private business. Look at what happened to a family who own and operate their bakery when they denied the order to bake a wedding cake for two lesbians.

I believe that man in the video is right. There is no law that mandate a citizen to wear or use any specific garment, clothing, fashion, artifact, accessory, instrument or any other kind of object to go in the public live much less when the individual comes to receive or purchase the most elementary needs as food, drink, health assistance.
Fortunately USA is still a Constitutional Republic and a state of rights. Socialists are trying to destroy that at any cost. Hope one of these days they wont obligate you to get in a burqa if you want to open a bank account or get your ballot to exercise your voting right. Just keep alert and don't let a virus from communist China eat your brain.

[Freak80]

Florida man...

[k350]

Originally Posted by Angel Calzadilla

You stated literally "private business are free to deny service" Well it depends what type of private business. Look at what happened to a family who own and operate their bakery when they denied the order to bake a wedding cake for two lesbians.

I believe that man in the video is right. There is no law that mandate a citizen to wear or use any specific garment, clothing, fashion, artifact, accessory, instrument or any other kind of object to go in the public live much less when the individual comes to receive or purchase the most elementary needs as food, drink, health assistance.
Fortunately USA is still a Constitutional Republic and a state of rights. Socialists are trying to destroy that at any cost. Hope one of these days they wont obligate you to get in a burqa if you want to open a bank account or get your ballot to exercise your voting right. Just keep alert and don't let a virus from communist China eat your brain.

So, a restaurant can establish a dress code, but not a grocery store? Can I go barefooted? Allowed in public but wait, "no shirt, no shoes, no service", right?

[oh come on!]

he must be a flat earther.


and he should study the constitution and bill of rights, because that chit doesn't apply to private businesses.

he doesn't have the right to (buy) food


no brain, no service
mofacka

Originally Posted by Angel Calzadilla

You stated literally "private business are free to deny service" Well it depends what type of private business. Look at what happened to a family who own and operate their bakery when they denied the order to bake a wedding cake for two lesbians.

I believe that man in the video is right. There is no law that mandate a citizen to wear or use any specific garment, clothing, fashion, artifact, accessory, instrument or any other kind of object to go in the public live much less when the individual comes to receive or purchase the most elementary needs as food, drink, health assistance.
Fortunately USA is still a Constitutional Republic and a state of rights. Socialists are trying to destroy that at any cost. Hope one of these days they wont obligate you to get in a burqa if you want to open a bank account or get your ballot to exercise your voting right. Just keep alert and don't let a virus from communist China eat your brain.

There are certain protected classes under federal law, but gays are not one of them.

it does not depend on what type of private business.

all private businesses are free to deny service, within the confines of the law. If state law is more restrictive, and you operate within that state, you must follow the letter of the law of that state.

If the state law states that no business may require customers to wear a mask, then you follow that law or get penalized.

Since there is no written law about masks one way or another, businesses are free to write whatever clothing rules they want for all customers to follow.

In the case of this supermarket heckler, he is not being discriminated based on race, color, religion, origin, etc. so there was nothing illegal.

He was not wearing a mask, and everyone else not wearing a mask was also denied entry.

flat-earth-supermarket-heckler was just being stupid.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by oh come on!

he must be a flat earther.


and he should study the constitution and bill of rights, because that chit doesn't apply to private businesses.

he doesn't have the right to (buy) food


no brain, no service
mofacka






There are certain protected classes under federal law, but gays are not one of them.

it does not depend on what type of private business.

all private businesses are free to deny service, within the confines of the law. If state law is more restrictive, and you operate within that state, you must follow the letter of the law of that state.

If the state law states that no business may require customers to wear a mask, then you follow that law or get penalized.

Since there is no written law about masks one way or another, businesses are free to write whatever clothing rules they want for all customers to follow.

In the case of this supermarket heckler, he is not being discriminated based on race, color, religion, origin, etc. so there was nothing illegal.

He was not wearing a mask, and everyone else not wearing a mask was also denied entry.

flat-earth-supermarket-heckler was just being stupid.

Since there is no written law about masks one way or another, businesses are free to write whatever clothing rules they want for all customers to follow.

People wearing mask are breaking the law ... State legislatures are scrambling.

U.S. Current Trend: Anti-Mask Laws, COVID-19, and the First Amendment

Repealing Anti-Mask Laws

"Anti-mask laws are not necessary. Most states do not have such laws on their books with seemingly few negative repercussions. These laws have long created First Amendment concerns and during the COVID-19 pandemic, they create confusion in the public health response and the possibility for abuse. Attorneys general and governors should announce that they will not enforce anti-mask laws during the pandemic and state legislatures should move rapidly to either repeal these laws or narrowly tailor them to address both public health and First Amendment concerns."


It is against the law to hide your face from big brother --- seriously, I thought this argument would be more in favor of privacy rights and the concealment of one's identity --- but alas, people in the u.s. move in the opposite direction.

btw: businesses look at what will reduce liability law suits; that is why they adopted the no shoes, no shirt, no service rules. They do not want to be held responsible for some one getting hurt in their stores.

Store cameras though --- they can not capture an image under a mask. I wonder if they have stopped to consider the liability on that.

[oh come on!]

yeah, SOME states have anti mask laws.

Importantly, in ..., Florida, ...., in addition to making it an offense to wear a face covering when committing a crime, it is an offense to wear a mask with the intent to intimidate or harass another person

good thing the miami supermarket heckler didn't wear a mask to harass the staff.

[rstevens62]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

People wearing mask are breaking the law ... State legislatures are scrambling.

U.S. Current Trend: Anti-Mask Laws, COVID-19, and the First Amendment

Repealing Anti-Mask Laws

"Anti-mask laws are not necessary. Most states do not have such laws on their books with seemingly few negative repercussions. These laws have long created First Amendment concerns and during the COVID-19 pandemic, they create confusion in the public health response and the possibility for abuse. Attorneys general and governors should announce that they will not enforce anti-mask laws during the pandemic and state legislatures should move rapidly to either repeal these laws or narrowly tailor them to address both public health and First Amendment concerns."


It is against the law to hide your face from big brother --- seriously, I thought this argument would be more in favor of privacy rights and the concealment of one's identity --- but alas, people in the u.s. move in the opposite direction.

btw: businesses look at what will reduce liability law suits; that is why they adopted the no shoes, no shirt, no service rules. They do not want to be held responsible for some one getting hurt in their stores.

Store cameras though --- they can not capture an image under a mask. I wonder if they have stopped to consider the liability on that.

My company was just talking about this a couple days ago!! Some of our stores get held up and robbed pretty frequently, and now that everyone is required to wear masks to enter the store, its created a bit of a problem for law enforcement, since they cannot get a good look at the persons face anymore.


We had a robbery at a store last week and we were looking at the security footage, when the guy was in line, he was pulling his mask up as high up as he could on his face, he had a ball cap on and the mask he had was a big bandana, so it covered most of his neck too, the only thing we could see was his eyes on camera...the detective who came for the security video told us right off the bat, it was unlikely they would be able to ID this guy.

[Nickchick]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

First off, I have COPD, I will notice if I can not breathe, right off. Under the COPD umbrella I fall into the category of bronchitis.

Second, I work in the food service industry for a university. PPE will be required when I return to work and I don't need to wait for the return to work orientation to have an understanding of that.

Third, the employer is required to take care of all work related equipment, including the PPE, and all safety instructions.

If the employer does not issue PPE --- the employees need not worry about it as it falls under the category of the employers responsibility (each State law is different) to see to the needs of their employees. If I worked in an office setting, the same principle applies.
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Masks and Face Coverings: What Employers Need to Know

"However, the employer may have that obligation under general state or local laws obligating employers to provide or pay for equipment like face coverings. As noted, Governor Cuomo’s Order specifically requires employers to pay for face coverings for essential, customer-facing employees. In contrast, OSHA and the DOL have not provided guidance whether face coverings must be provided or paid for by the employer. In other states, employers should review wage and hour and workplace safety regulations to determine if they are obligated to pay for face coverings and other items recommended for COVID-19 protection."

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If for some reason people with a respiratory conditions are having issues with face covering, some of those issues may be solved in house with their employer, just by discussion the issue with them. A person may have skills that would be applied to a different position in the company, where as their coming in contact with other employees or customers can be minimized; eliminate the need for face coverings in their workplace.

For every problem there is a solution --- one solution may be, finding a different job.

I have three solutions that I am aware of, right off.

One, I can file for disability (people tell me I should, but I do not want to do that, yet, because I like my job)
Two, I can purchase cotton masks that will make breathing a bit easier; check with my employer to see if they are appropriate. (since I am susceptible to catching most bugs that fly through the air, my workplace, just got safer for me)
Three, purchase a portable oxygen tank ...
I can not understand any one with a respiratory illness saying any thing of that nature as I do wake in the middle of the night, from what was a sound slumber, to not being able to breathe and needing my neutralizer for a treatment.

But I do know my co-workers do not have a clue as to what is going on with me any given time during my work shift and am thankful I carry my cell phone on me at all times --- 9-1-1 is within 'my' reach.

There are ADA laws (reasonable accommodations) that employers are very much aware of and if they are not, perhaps there is a lawyer that can help them out with that --- that's all.

I think for me it wouldn't work. PTSD is different than COPD. Also I can't successfully get disability myself because I haven't worked long enough. Plus I do want to work just not at my normal job and I can be okay with my alternate duties most of the time if it wasn't for the mask.

Originally Posted by k350

So, a restaurant can establish a dress code, but not a grocery store? Can I go barefooted? Allowed in public but wait, "no shirt, no shoes, no service", right?

I don't know if that's a good example though. You just have to wear a shirt and shoes. You don't have to wear pants to a restaurant. You can wear shorts and short sleeves. You can wear sandals.
Anyway much ado about nothing for people in general so the person complaining probably is being a drama king.

[pennyone]

Originally Posted by Masterful_Man

Never violate a man's constitutional right to shop without wearing a dorky mask...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXn2b0yv6pQ


The guy could be right though, the whole plandemic might be a giant hoax.
Out of roughly 100 family members, friends, extended relatives, neighbors, etc, I still don't know anyone who has had covid-19.

Lol. He certainly has a right to his own food. So he can grow his food on his own without wearing a ,ask. But if he wants to buy food that is owned by this store, he’ll have to follow the store’s rule for entering the store building in order to buy the said food to make it his own or he can just grow his own food.

[pennyone]

Originally Posted by blahblahyoutoo

sure they can.
ever see the "no shirt, no shoes, no service" signs? add "no mask" to it.

Yeah, some store even have signs that say...No Cash, No Sale......so, yeah. No mask, no service.