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I posted this a few days ago somewhere else. There is a clinical trial going on with another, more modern antimalarial that does not have the cardiac risk associated with it. The cardiac issue is significant in that so many COVID patients are elderly and have cardiac issues. The drug is called atovaquone. It also is being combined with azithromax. It it known to have antiviral properties and the biology and chemistry suggest that it may be effective against COVID-19.
The cardiac issue you allude to is the QTc interval which may elongate with concomittant use of some medications. When the interval gets to long the pacemaker can mistake a cardiac marker as a reason to fire the SA node of the heart and the heart rate rapidly accelerates. It is known as R on T syndrome and we monitor for it.
Seriously, it’s like the bat signal went up in the sky for you folks and you all became possessed.
Right-wing pundits are all breathless about it, Dr. Donald already told us it was great (before saying we should look into injectable disinfectants and UV lights), and lots of conspiracy over how medical establishment is in on split to suppress the truth, etc.
Yes, it's a possibly helpful treatment, and it is being used in hospitals around the world. But it takes a lot of data and analysis to determine the level of efficacy. This virus is new and there are many variables at play in terms of the patients. If it was the undisputed miracle cure, we would have seen this across the world by now.
Why did a bunch of partisan pundits with no medical training latch onto this one thing with no evidence?
Hate to be the party pooper here but this drug was used in China first way back in February with positive effects.
It's offensive due to the fact that you advance that you know what you are talking about when you actually don't. If you want I'll introduce you to some colleagues who do.
So the New England Journal of Medicine doesn't know what they are talking about but a nurse does. Anecdotes are not medicine.The study is the largest conducted so far and does not show hydroxychloroquine to make a difference. The thread asks why a treatment that has shown to have no effect is being touted by conservatives. IMO the simple answer is because Trump promotes it.
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The cardiac issue you allude to is the QTc interval which may elongate with concomittant use of some medications. When the interval gets to long the pacemaker can mistake a cardiac marker as a reason to fire the SA node of the heart and the heart rate rapidly accelerates. It is known as R on T syndrome and we monitor for it.
Monitoring for it doesn't mean the hydroxychloroquine doesn't increase cardiac risk.
In a new report, a team of pharmacists and clinicians found evidence suggesting that patients who received hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 were at increased risk of electrical changes to the heart and cardiac arrhythmias. The combination of hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin was linked to even greater changes compared to hydroxychloroquine alone. https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0501184252.htm
So the New England Journal of Medicine doesn't know what they are talking about but a nurse does. Anecdotes are not medicine.The study is the largest conducted so far and does not show hydroxychloroquine to make a difference. The thread asks why a treatment that has shown to have no effect is being touted by conservatives. IMO the simple answer is because Trump promotes it.
I cannot help you. That's not an opinion it is a prejudice
So the New England Journal of Medicine doesn't know what they are talking about but a nurse does. Anecdotes are not medicine.The study is the largest conducted so far and does not show hydroxychloroquine to make a difference. The thread asks why a treatment that has shown to have no effect is being touted by conservatives. IMO the simple answer is because Trump promotes it.
Well if anyone bothers to read foreign news they will see that some positive effects were noted by the Chinese when they did a trail back in Feb 2020. I posted a link to the research paper.
I think the difference between conservatives and liberals is conservatives want every treatment option explored to minimize death and liberals want there to be more deaths because they think it ight help them politically. All the places where deaths were super high were liberals areas.
THIS ^^^ is a fantasy post.
Another opinion straight out of thin air, nothing behind it. But that is typical for many Trumpies.
The poster is actually claiming that blue state liberals are killing their own (in states Trump can't carry) because it will "help them politically".
Rubbish.
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