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Hard to believe that Paul is a doctor, why does he dislike science. Why is he questioning Fauci's motive. What exactly would be his motive for providing health guidelines to the states, if the governor of Kentucky doesn't like them then do what you want. That state deserves McConnell and Paul, go ahead and experiment.
I though Fauci responded very well, classy as usual.
You all must be really mad at Trump because Trump has relied on FAuci for his expertise and knowledge.
Why is it so hard to understand that we should not lace all out trust in what ONE person says? He represents ONE point of view in the medical community. In addition, he does not represent any financial concerns of the country and individuals who have been out of work and starting to struggle. There is a balance that needs to be struck, and the republicans seemed to understand this. They don’t always, but in this case they seem to. This isn’t about being anti Trump. It’s about doing what’s best for the the individuals of this country, and imho all sides need to be considered.
Why is it so hard to understand that we should not lace all out trust in what ONE person says? He represents ONE point of view in the medical community. In addition, he does not represent any financial concerns of the country and individuals who have been out of work and starting to struggle. There is a balance that needs to be struck, and the republicans seemed to understand this. They don’t always, but in this case they seem to. This isn’t about being anti Trump. It’s about doing what’s best for the the individuals of this country, and imho all sides need to be considered.
But he is not giving out financial advice and his views are shared by most medical experts both here and abroad. Many states are already ignoring the reopening guidelines that's their right but don't look for medical experts to bless their decision.
Why is it so hard to understand that we should not lace all out trust in what ONE person says? He represents ONE point of view in the medical community. In addition, he does not represent any financial concerns of the country and individuals who have been out of work and starting to struggle. There is a balance that needs to be struck, and the republicans seemed to understand this. They don’t always, but in this case they seem to. This isn’t about being anti Trump. It’s about doing what’s best for the the individuals of this country, and imho all sides need to be considered.
He's only one voice that seems to echo the same thoughts as all the other health/science people
And of course -- balance of economics/health-- that's all part of the quality of life.
You can't have a great economy and ignore a health crisis. And you can't ignore the economy as we learn to cope with a health crisis.
Fauci never suggested that.
Right now he's advising a thoughtful measured approach to getting back to business.
Maybe if the White House had been serious about their planning they would have implemented a thoughtful measured approach a month ago and come up with real guidelines that Governors could use.
Instead The White House has been all over the place with their messaging.....caling for guidelines and then celebrating when those guidelines aren't followed.
Whatever the message -- it should be consistent, strong and doable.
Fauci is not calling for more shutdowns.
He is advising concern as we open up.
But the latest conservative pundit talking points are based on trashing Fauci's scientific/medical advice.....suggesting that even Trump fans think that Fauci is misinformed. That would mean Trump picked someone who is misinformed......oh dear.
But the latest conservative pundit talking points are based on trashing Fauci's scientific/medical advice.....suggesting that even Trump fans think that Fauci is misinformed. That would mean Trump picked someone who is misinformed......oh dear.
And the latest liberal talking points are just to listen to only one person, and saying “see, Fauci is saying we should not open up and bad orange man and republicans are bad for wanting to do so. And mean ole business owners are bad for wanting to do so”. It is their classic identity politics move to keep people divided. They are driven by their hatred of Trump instead of seeking a health/financial balance. Even Musk can’t take the ways of the left anymore. They are playing politics with peoples financial and physical health.
Hard to believe that Paul is a doctor, why does he dislike science. Why is he questioning Fauci's motive. What exactly would be his motive for providing health guidelines to the states, if the governor of Kentucky doesn't like them then do what you want. That state deserves McConnell and Paul, go ahead and experiment.
I though Fauci responded very well, classy as usual.
He doesn’t dislike science, his whole point - which is correct - is that there are differing opinions by equally credible scientists and that Fauci is not the only one whose research based opinion ought to be taken into consideration. Paul, as a doctor, understands this better than most people.
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Fauci is giving hard scientific facts that change as they learn more about this virus. He is the first to state all along that this is what we know at this time.
Senator Paul and the GOP try to gaslight scientist to blur what is happening to push their agenda to win in 2020 elections.
Fauci said he is looking at the science of the virus not it's economic impact. Trump is supposed to combine those two perspectives to navigate through this but Trump is incapable of it.
And the latest liberal talking points are just to listen to only one person, and saying “see, Fauci is saying we should not open up and bad orange man and republicans are bad for wanting to do so. And mean ole business owners are bad for wanting to do so”. It is their classic identity politics move to keep people divided. They are driven by their hatred of Trump instead of seeking a health/financial balance. Even Musk can’t take the ways of the left anymore. They are playing politics with peoples financial and physical health.
So you go on a political biased rant and point fingers at others for their political bias......
No news, I'm not a fan of Trump's. But I support opening up businesses.
And please, Musk's performance has less to do with liberal or conservative and more about him....it is all about him and his ego. He could easily have called local and state officials, given them a tour of his facility and how he is ready to get back to work. Instead he goes all bad boy and public and I'm me and going to do what I want. Yeah yeah -- big bad conservative Musk -- lol.
He put on a show and it worked for the fans that like the three ring circus. Local and state officials are in agreement for him to open his plant.
Back to facts.
Nobody -- not one person is suggesting -- especially not Fauci -- that we stay closed completely.
That is made up to create a -- those liberals are bad people line from conservative pundits.
What is being advocated is a measured approach to opening up with paying attention to the science, the numbers, facts...not feelings.
There will not be a vaccine for some time as confirmed by Fauci and therefore -- as Fauci confirmed yesterday -- we have to approach our return to business, school, play -- knowing that fact and the facts we have about the virus.
That's all Fauci and others are recommending. He's not giving any kind of advice on economic policy, or structuring businesses etc. going further....just advising based on medicine/science etc.
Every red state is opening up with some kind of new measures to mitigate the spread. That's a good thing. That's what folks are calling for.
That's what blue states are doing.
There isn't one person saying - -oh no -- don't allow anything - not one...that's made up for political propaganda --- and not by the liberals..
The criticism for Trump is not just about his lack of empathy during the biggest health crisis in our lifetime....but the fact that the contradictory messages from The White House create chaos, doubt......get a message, plan based on that...provide guidelines, structures, resources or the ability to secure based on that plan and stick to it.
Don't formulate a guideline and then the next day when the governors throw it out the window -- ignroing federal guidelines -- celebrate that. That means he stood up -- Trump -- and basically try to sell us something he didn't believe in.....he lied....again.
Fauci said he is looking at the science of the virus not it's economic impact. Trump is supposed to combine those two perspectives to navigate through this but Trump is incapable of it.
Look I am not the biggest Trump fan, but where is your evidence to back it up that he is incapable? And don’t spout your friends from the MSM. Step away from the noise and your emotions and try to evaluated fairly. Is he not advocating a slow return to normalcy? Is he not recommending proper protection for employees? Is he not leaving some of the decisions up to the local authorities in each state because they can best decide what works for them? Yes to all of these. What more do you want?
But the latest conservative pundit talking points are based on trashing Fauci's scientific/medical advice.....suggesting that even Trump fans think that Fauci is misinformed. That would mean Trump picked someone who is misinformed......oh dear.
I don’t know. I just hear you echoing the far left talking points and making statements that are not true. Where are the articles from so called conservative news sources trashing Fauci? Please provide links. All this attention given to Paul’s comments to Fauci is way way overblown and misrepresented. He stated a fact, one that you agreed with. Fauci is not the end all be all. Did Paul say not to listen to him? No he did not. Again, this is all a fake frenzy made up by the left and their propaganda machine the media to attack the GOP and Trump and further divide the people. Why, because the only thing they are interested in is power. The parties are big business and all they care about is expanding their business.
The parties (especially the left) like to take facts stated by someone and somehow tell people they are racists or homophobe or any number of classifications instead of looking the facts in the face and dealing with them. Just look at the outrage fro the left over Brian Adams’s comments. Again, facts that are twisted by the left. I really do not understand this.
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