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Old 05-13-2020, 08:47 AM
 
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A ex major league baseball player says the players should take less money or accept a reduced revenue sharing plan from the league/owners Uh-oh The league is in the middle of a revenue debate

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Keep in mind baseball is fading in many markets with the only things keeping interest are cable deals and gambling industry. So if these players want those million dollar contracts they shouldnt be too picky.
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Old 05-13-2020, 09:04 AM
 
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"ex major league". There you go, find one actually still playing who says this.
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Old 05-13-2020, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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A ex major league baseball player says the players should take less money or accept a reduced revenue sharing plan from the league/owners Uh-oh The league is in the middle of a revenue debate
It won't kill them to take less money.

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Keep in mind baseball is fading in many markets with the only things keeping interest are cable deals and gambling industry.
I haven't seen a game since 1991.

When they go back to 24 teams, I might actually have an interest.

The quality of play now is just glorified minor leagues.
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Old 05-13-2020, 11:13 AM
 
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If that’s what he wants, fine. And if he wants to pay higher taxes nobody is stopping him.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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It won't kill them to take less money.



I haven't seen a game since 1991.

When they go back to 24 teams, I might actually have an interest.

The quality of play now is just glorified minor leagues.

Absolutely incorrect. Players today are more skilled and better then ever. Especially the pitching.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:30 PM
 
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In my opinion, they should take a pro-rated amount based on the remaining schedule and some percentage on top for spring training. I read the players' argument a few days ago. They essentially are asking for hazard pay. Not many American workers are getting hazard pay at this time. Why do they think they should get a bonus? The guy stocking shelves at the supermarket is probably at greater risk than a baseball player.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:34 PM
 
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I gave up on MLB back when they quit mid-season many years ago.

Private business agreement so whatever they and the owners work out is fine by me.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:37 PM
 
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Just so everyone is clear:

- MLB and the players already agreed to a pay structure based on games played back in March

- MLB has come back to the players saying they based the agreement on fans being in the stadium

- MLB is now asking that players agree to a revenue sharing model since their plan to reopen precludes fans from attending games

- agreeing to that will create a precedent for other leagues to do the same.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Baseball Player says they should take less money this year-uh-oh
The suggestion from the teams was to play only half the games for half the salary. Obviously the players oppose, but a full season it pretty much off the table, so the teams wonder how they can collect enough revenue to pay the players full year pay.

Sounds like a legit concern.

I lost interest last time Marlins won the title, and then sold all the good players to other teams. Now A-Rod is trying to re-build, but it does not seem to be going anywhere.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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Just so everyone is clear:

- MLB and the players already agreed to a pay structure based on games played back in March

- MLB has come back to the players saying they based the agreement on fans being in the stadium

- MLB is now asking that players agree to a revenue sharing model since their plan to reopen precludes fans from attending games

- agreeing to that will create a precedent for other leagues to do the same.
Yep, you got it. Lets see what an active player says must be considered. From the twitter page of Sean Doolittle;

Bear with me, but it feels like we've zoomed past the most important aspect of any MLB restart plan: health protections for players, families, staff, stadium workers and the workforce it would require to resume a season. Here are some things I'll be looking for in the proposal...


Because this is a novel virus, there is still so much we don't know - including the long-term effects. On top of respiratory issues, there's been evidence of kidney, intestinal, and liver damage, as well as neurological malfunctions, blood clots & strokes.

Covid-19 patients often develop lung scarring, or 'ground-glass opacities'. These were found even in asymptomatic patients, and because the virus often affects both lungs, can cause permanent damage in some cases. Definitely a concern for an athlete.

Research has shown Covid-19 may cause issues with male hormone ratios - even in younger men, which could lead to fertility complications. Not ideal. Extremely suboptimal. Zero stars.

We know that sharing indoor spaces greatly increases the infection risk, and it's rare that only 1 person gets sick. Will there be modifications made to clubhouses or other facilities to prevent a spread?

And we've learned that you release the most virus into your environment prior to symptoms even showing. So how frequently will we be testing to stay ahead of a potential spread and to mitigate as much risk as possible?

Fauci spoke about conducting an NFL season & indicated a need for daily testing. Baseball players might not be in close contact during a game the way football players are, but there is a lot of shared space in a clubhouse among players, coaches and staff.

So how many tests do we need to safely play during a pandemic? And not just tests for players. Baseball requires a massive workforce besides the players; coaches, clubhouse staff, security, grounds crews, umpires, gameday stadium staff, TV & media...we need to protect everyone.

And that's before we get to hotel workers and transportation workers (pilots, flight attendants, bus drivers). They are essential workers. We wouldn't be able to play a season without them, and they deserve the same protections.

We need to consider what level of risk we're willing to assume. 80% of cases are considered mild, but what if a player, a staff member, an auxiliary worker, or a family member gets a case that's in the 20% and they develop severe symptoms or chronic issues? 1 feels like too many?

There are a number of players & staff who have pre-existing conditions that they are aware of (and likely more who aren't yet). We need a plan that seriously considers the increased health concerns of any players, staff or workers who are at higher risk.

And if even mild cases can cause long-term health effects, will there be added healthcare benefits for players, staff and workers that will extend beyond their employment and into retirement to mitigate the unknown risks of putting on a baseball season during a pandemic?

We don't have a vaccine yet, and we don't really have any effective anti-viral treatments. What happens if there is a second wave? Hopefully we can come up with BOTH a proactive health plan focused on prevention AND a reactive plan aimed at containment.

Hopefully these concerns will be addressed in MLB's proposal, first and foremost: 1) what's the plan to ethically acquire enough tests? 2) what's the protocol if a player, staff member, or worker contracts the virus? We want to play. And we want everyone to stay safe.

Sorry, I had to get that out of my system. I'm going to turn my phone off now. Best of luck to my men
Obi-Sean Kenobi Doolittle
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