Bordering states, different outcomes: Wyoming has 7 COVID-19 deaths, Denver has 248 Covid deaths with 1,150 in Colorado (generations, health care)

[lovecrowds]

Jared Polis and Michael Hancock have done a terrible job on COVID compared to Wyoming Mark Gordon.

Wyoming residents must have tremendous health and world-class hospitals compared to Colorado.

Suprised, the high per-capita rates of COVID cases, hospitalizations and deaths in Colorado compared to Wyoming, Utah, Montana hasn't been studied.

Colorado has had an extreme amount of COVID deaths compared to states it in close proximity to.

Denver alone has had 248, Aurora which had a tremendous amount of employees succumb to COVID-19 at a grocery store has had a massive amount of people pass-away from COVID.

Colorado Springs and Pueblo has had a 7% death rate from COVID.

24% of people who tested positive for COVID passed away in Chaffee County.

Colorado jails, prisons, nursing homes and meat-packing plants have had a tremendous amount of cases. Haven't heard of Wyoming having the same issues on the same level per-capita.

https://coloradosun.com/2020/05/13/c...king-colorado/

I wonder why Colorado has such a sky-high rate of COVID-19 deaths. I was thinking originally that it was altitude related but Utah, Wyoming, Montana have had much lower per-capita rates than the national average.

I do know that by growing up in Colorado, that the state has failing health care infrastructure that has been on the brink for generations.

Wyoming hasn't had much of a population change, so they likely were more than ready for an influx which has happened.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2020/05...ving-covid-19/

https://covid19.colorado.gov/covid-19-data

https://health.wyo.gov/publichealth/...nd-statistics/

Out of 716 cofirmed or probable cases in Wyoming a total of 7 have died.

Denver with about 25% more people, has had a whopping 248 deaths.

[CityLover9]

Gee, maybe it's because Colorado, and especially Denver, is much more densely populated than anywhere in Wyoming.

Of course rates of infection and, therefore, deaths are going to be higher.

That's just common sense.

[StillwaterTownie]

Why not compare Colorado to a highly conservative state closer to it in population size, such as Oklahoma. Or did you find Oklahoma has done a poor job of taking care of the virus even worse that Colorado? After all, the governor of Oklahoma was on Twitter with his kids to come on down to the restaurant where he was at and join them for a good time, while other governors were shutting down their states.

But then since Oklahoma is such a bad, highly undesirable state to hold up as an example why being conservative is better than being liberal, it's hardly ever used as an example in that way. Many of the locals don't mind keeping Oklahoma undesirable to outsiders in order to keep the cost of living down. Oklahoma City doesn't neet to become one of the most highly desirable cities in the nation to move to and become the next Austin with skyrocketing inflation that goes with it.

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by CityLover9

That's just common sense.

Consider the source. Too bad they don't love math as much as they love crowds, and as much as they love crowds, they are apparently incapable of distinguishing between a large crowd and a small crowd.

[godofthunder9010]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

Why not compare Colorado to a highly conservative state closer to it in population size, such as Oklahoma. Or did you find Oklahoma has done a poor job of taking care of the virus even worse that Colorado? After all, the governor of Oklahoma was on Twitter with his kids to come on down to the restaurant where he was at and join them for a good time, while other governors were shutting down their states.

But then since Oklahoma is such a bad, highly undesirable state to hold up as an example why being conservative is better than being liberal, it's hardly ever used as an example in that way. Many of the locals don't mind keeping Oklahoma undesirable to outsiders in order to keep the cost of living down. Oklahoma City doesn't neet to become one of the most highly desirable cities in the nation to move to and become the next Austin with skyrocketing inflation that goes with it.

Sure, sounds fair. To ensure that it's as apples-to-apples as possible, I'll go get the numbers for the states that are closest to Colorado in population, which also happen to be conservative.

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

• Colorado: 207 deaths per million.
• South Carolina: 74 deaths per million.
• Alabama: 99 deaths per million.
• Oklahoma (since you mentioned it): 73 deaths per million.

Wyoming is sitting pretty at 12 deaths per million, which means they're tied with Hawaii for having the lowest per capita death rate. One is a very blue state, the other is a very red state. Both deserve to get a huge pat on the back for a job well done.

If we sort by death rate per million, the states with the lowest death rates are almost all red states. Some of those red states are high population states like Texas. Some are low population states like North and South Dakota. A couple of very blue states make it into the low-death states (Oregon and Hawaii), but most of the best outcomes do appear to be red states. I couldn't really tell you why that is.

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

Sure, sounds fair. To ensure that it's as apples-to-apples as possible, I'll go get the numbers for the states that are closest to Colorado in population, which also happen to be conservative.

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

• Colorado: 207 deaths per million.
• South Carolina: 74 deaths per million.
• Alabama: 99 deaths per million.
• Oklahoma (since you mentioned it): 73 deaths per million.

Wyoming is sitting pretty at 12 deaths per million, which means they're tied with Hawaii for having the lowest per capita death rate. One is a very blue state, the other is a very red state. Both deserve to get a huge pat on the back for a job well done.

If we sort by death rate per million, the states with the lowest death rates are almost all red states. Some of those red states are high population states like Texas. Some are low population states like North and South Dakota. A couple of very blue states make it into the low-death states (Oregon and Hawaii), but most of the best outcomes do appear to be red states. I couldn't really tell you why that is.

The red state correlation in the really low red states looks to be directly correlated to population density. Alaska, Montana, Wyoming. Utah is in there and it's lower rate is highly likely due to clean living and a lower average age per capita.

[godofthunder9010]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

The red state correlation in the really low red states looks to be directly correlated to population density. Alaska, Montana, Wyoming. Utah is in there and it's lower rate is highly likely due to clean living and a lower average age per capita.

Well, the most densely populated states tend to be strongly blue and the least densely populated states tend to be red.

I saw StillwaterTownie's response and I honestly hadn't looked at the breakdown in a long time, so I didn't know what to expect. Turns out, the only red state that makes the top 10 for most deaths per capita is Louisiana. The only blue states that even make it into the top 20 for least deaths per capita are Oregon and Hawaii. To be honest, I was expecting a much more mixed bag.

Hawaii doesn't follow the trend you're suggesting. They are the 13th most densely populated state, yet they are tied with Wyoming for lowest deaths per capita. Maybe the fact that they are completely isolated from the 49 other states is their secret to success. Who knows?

It is at least always interesting to look at how the numbers break down. It's possible that the states that took a more casual approach gained herd immunity early and had fewer deaths as a result. Then there's the fact that cities always get hit hard, yet some cities that are about the same size saw very different results.

Example: The metro areas of Kansas City, MO and Indianapolis, IN are almost the same size. Kansas City area has seen 1153 cases and 69 deaths. Indianapolis has seen 8151 cases and 474 deaths. Houston is right up there with Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City, but by comparison, the disease is almost non-existent when you compare their numbers to the others. Hard to say how much is just random and how much is a direct result of how any given city or state reacted to the pandemic.

[EastwardBound]

Originally Posted by lovecrowds

Jared Polis and Michael Hancock have done a terrible job on COVID compared to Wyoming Mark Gordon.

Wyoming residents must have tremendous health and world-class hospitals compared to Colorado.

Suprised, the high per-capita rates of COVID cases, hospitalizations and deaths in Colorado compared to Wyoming, Utah, Montana hasn't been studied.

Colorado has had an extreme amount of COVID deaths compared to states it in close proximity to.

Denver alone has had 248, Aurora which had a tremendous amount of employees succumb to COVID-19 at a grocery store has had a massive amount of people pass-away from COVID.

Colorado Springs and Pueblo has had a 7% death rate from COVID.

24% of people who tested positive for COVID passed away in Chaffee County.

Colorado jails, prisons, nursing homes and meat-packing plants have had a tremendous amount of cases. Haven't heard of Wyoming having the same issues on the same level per-capita.

https://coloradosun.com/2020/05/13/c...king-colorado/

I wonder why Colorado has such a sky-high rate of COVID-19 deaths. I was thinking originally that it was altitude related but Utah, Wyoming, Montana have had much lower per-capita rates than the national average.

I do know that by growing up in Colorado, that the state has failing health care infrastructure that has been on the brink for generations.

Wyoming hasn't had much of a population change, so they likely were more than ready for an influx which has happened.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2020/05...ving-covid-19/

https://covid19.colorado.gov/covid-19-data

https://health.wyo.gov/publichealth/...nd-statistics/

Out of 716 cofirmed or probable cases in Wyoming a total of 7 have died.

Denver with about 25% more people, has had a whopping 248 deaths.

Colorado has many more people and is much denser along the Front Range Urban Corridor. Colorado also is a destination with one of the busiest international airports in the country, with people coming and going.

[boneyard1962]

Originally Posted by CityLover9

Gee, maybe it's because Colorado, and especially Denver, is much more densely populated than anywhere in Wyoming.

Of course rates of infection and, therefore, deaths are going to be higher.

That's just common sense.

Which means it is common sense not to live in places like NYC, Denver, LA or any other sardine can they call a city.

[rjshae]

Are we really going to keep rehashing the point that COVID-19 spreads faster in denser populated regions? There's no magic here; the closer people are to each other, the better it can spread.