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Old 05-17-2020, 08:11 PM
 
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So the Pentagon and the White House make policies based on fake reports and bogus data.
Even worse, they hand fake stories to media intentionally.
I wonder where they hired the "contractors".

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A shocking report suggesting that the coronavirus was “release[d from] the Wuhan Institute of Virology” in China is now circulating in U.S. military and intelligence circles and on Capitol Hill. But there’s a critical flaw in the report, a Daily Beast analysis reveals: Some of its most seemingly persuasive evidence is false—provably false.
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Since then, former Australian foreign ministers and media outlets around the world have openly doubted the origins and intent of the dossier, suggesting that it was leaked to The Daily Telegraph by U.S. interests looking to give credence to the claims made by Trump and Pompeo. “It seems the U.S. embassy gave a confected report to an Australian newspaper inflating baseless claims that the COVID19 virus was hatched in a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan,” former Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr told The Sydney Morning Herald.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/busted-pe...010005519.html
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Old 05-17-2020, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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While I wouldn't put it past the U.S. government to gin up the Wuhan Lab theory, I find it interesting Australia is the only of the Five Eyes countries so far to dispute the document's veracity, right after China threatened to cut off trade, tourism, and university enrollments of Chinese students at Australian universities. And in any case I'm sure as hell not going to humor lectures from a CCP mouthpiece about government disinformation and opacity.
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Old 05-17-2020, 09:28 PM
 
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The "batsoup" origin has not been proven , leaving the lableak/bioweapon theory a possibility

if it didn't leak from a lab then why won't the CCP let anyone into the country to investigate the origin,

details on the origin can help scientists find a vaccine faster, you'd think they'd want to help

If it happened in the West, Western governments would surely encourage foreign governments to try and help find the origin

We don't want to go into China and investigate to make conspiracy theories we want to investigate to quell possibly theories and help man kind ,

other questions
why did they close down the lab?
why was the lab and all the streets around it closed last October? (evidence from cell phone data)
how could it have come from a bat soup, when the supposed wet market didn't even sell bats?

in a country the size of the USA for the outbreak to happen mere miles away from a lab proven to be researching human transmission of bat coronaviruses warrants an investigation

also the lancet is a world renowned medical journal and months before the outbreak a doctor working in the Wuhan lab published an article about bat corona viruses ,

also even if it did come from a "bat soup" the fact that the CCP blocked all domestic flights and travel out of Wuhan but allowed hundreds of international flights to leave every day is concerning.

the CCP was insane about locking down Wuhan and quarantine-ing it , massive barriers built on the highways and armed guards patrolling the highways, if they were taking blocking all roads out of wuhan so so so seriously then why did they allow over 60,000 international students leave Wuhan for U.S. college classrooms. and thousands other students for classrooms across the globe,

the CCP said they will arrest anyone trying to leave Wuhan, but they allowed hundreds of thousands of students leave wuhan for classrooms across the U.S. and the world, it was either intentional or extremely negligent , but considering they seemed to know how dangerous the virus was by locking down wuhan so seriously im gonna go with intentional

so we have come to the conclusion the CCP intentionally allowed the virus to spread,,, since that is proven,,and i say proven bc it is a fact they stopped all domestic flights from Wuhan but international flights increased THAT IS A FACT
since its proven the CCP intentionally allowed it to spread ,maybe it could have also come from a lab
i mean almost NOBODY beleives the virus emerged out of a batsoup and the CCP did all they could to prevent its spread anymore

some people believe it was from a bat soup but the CCP allowed it to spread , well if thats the case then why dismiss it couldve been a lab leak or an act of biowarfare

and the fact that the CCP is benefiting so much from this crisis is concerning,,
emerging countries bonds are plumetting while chinese bonds are staying constant

they say now is not the time to accuse the CCP and we must wait until the crisis is resolved, but i say when it comes to dealing with the CCP , the sooner the better,

China has an amazing culture and history but unfortunately bc of the CCP, China should now have the same connotation as North Korea and Nazi Germany

also if the CCP did want to commit biowarfare,

the coronavirus was perfect, easily blamed on a "batsoup"

detrimental to the economy and nearly impossible to contain

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Old 05-17-2020, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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The Wuhan wet market that was linked to some of the first cases of covid-19 lies just a few hundred yards from the Wuhan virology lab -- one of a handful of labs in the world that was doing gain of function experiments using coronaviruses.

I guess that's just a coincidence?

I guess it's also just a coincidence that chinese researchers at a nearby University were stating it was likely that the virus escaped from the Wuhan lab back in Dec/Jan and then all mention of that was scrubbed off the chinese internet.

I guess it's just a coincidence that China and the WHO lied about the severity of the virus, e.g. the human-to-human transmission, early on preventing other countries from taking more pro-active measures.

IT'S ALL JUST A COINCIDENCE YOU GUYS. Connecting dots is for conspiracy theorists!
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:10 PM
 
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China destroyed all evidence of the virus, then prohibited any country from coming in to investigate the virus, and then have Democrats defend them.... its all a coincidence....
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:14 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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What I'm skeptical of is the idea that it was an intentional release from the lab. Apart from that though, there's probably no way to determine whether COVID-19 had a direct natural source or escaped from a sample in the lab. Either way, it originated in nature.
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:17 PM
 
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The Chicoms made a big deal out of closing the wet markets but later on reopened them. That, alone, is very telling. It means that the Chicoms know that the virus didn't originate in the wet markets. IOW, it originated in the Wuhan lab.
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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OP is almost certainly on the CCP's payroll.


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What I'm skeptical of is the idea that it was an intentional release from the lab. Apart from that though, there's probably no way to determine whether COVID-19 had a direct natural source or escaped from a sample in the lab. Either way, it originated in nature.

If there is no way to determine the origin, than I wonder why China refuses to allow the international community's, and particularly the US's scientists and researchers to come to China to investigate for themselves?
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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What I'm skeptical of is the idea that it was an intentional release from the lab. Apart from that though, there's probably no way to determine whether COVID-19 had a direct natural source or escaped from a sample in the lab. Either way, it originated in nature.
Western intelligence is not claiming it was an intentional release.
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:09 PM
 
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The "batsoup" origin has not been proven ...
A lot of things you could mention have not been proven, like that bogus lab fantasy you have latched on to.

The fact is all of the original cases were associated with a wildlife wet market in one particular neighborhood of a major metropolis. We know this because that was what was known to the original hospital (where the first Victim died) which tried to grapple with it, and that was what was reported by Dr Li Wenliang, a physician from that same hospital who died from treating patients at the very beginning.

These were ordinary shoppers and merchants from the wildlife market.

Researchers now know enough to be able to say it was a virus common to bats which was mediated through another animal. The second animal is not known but seems likely to have been a pangolin, it's an educated guess.

Viruses hybridize (two viruses in the same cell replicating simultaneously can mix/exchange their RNA), and it would be helpful to know which animal was infected from the bat. It was parts of that second animal which were handled and eaten which kicked off this pandemic.

This imaginary theory about the lab is an unnecessary distraction, and people who spread these wild conspiracy theories look downright foolish.
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