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It works out to one death per 50 diagnosed infections.
But seeing how 80% of cases are mild symptoms or asymptomatic and never get tested and added to the confirmed total number of cases......
It means one death out of approximately 250 cases.
A less than 1% mortality rate.
You pulled that logic out of your butt. How do you know people with mild symptoms are not getting tested? I was tested with no symptoms. Nowadays, anyone who sneezes thinks they may have Covid-19 and is getting tested.
The mortality rate onboard the Diamond Princess was 2%. That's the only experiment we have where we had a large enough population sample and yet knew everyone who had it and who did not.
You pulled that logic out of your butt. How do you know people with mild symptoms are not getting tested? I was tested with no symptoms. Nowadays, anyone who sneezes thinks they may have Covid-19 and is getting tested.
The mortality rate onboard the Diamond Princess was 2%. That's the only experiment we have where we had a large enough population sample and yet knew everyone who had it and who did not.
And now we have a better understanding of what we are dealing with, and can better treat severe cases. Hydroxychloroquine was not part of the doctor's toolkit for treating this, for example.
I support the lockdowns and also support a federal coordinated response on the national level to avoid having to play
"whack a mole" with the virus and shutting down different cities at different times.
Its hard to use Sweden as an example bc their nordic culture is much more collective then here in the U.S. , more similar to collective cultures like South Korea and Taiwan .
Also most important is that the Swedish government still urged caution and common sense and the Swedes have a much higher trust in their government then the U.S. I think trust in government is the biggest correlation to a low death rates bc every government has recommend social distancing. If the government just recommends social distancing and everyone trust their governments they don't need laws prohibiting it. compared to some of my peers who say "they just allowed gatherings of 50 or more, lets party!" even while the government still recommends social distancing.
Also Sweden has seen an unnerving amount of deaths in care homes and most importantly has much higher rates then its Nordic neighbors.
"According to website Worldometer, Sweden's virus death rate stood at 371 per million inhabitants on Tuesday, compared to neighbouring Norway's 43, Denmark's 95, and Finland's 54, all who have adopted much stricter containment measures."
You pulled that logic out of your butt. How do you know people with mild symptoms are not getting tested? I was tested with no symptoms. Nowadays, anyone who sneezes thinks they may have Covid-19 and is getting tested.
The mortality rate onboard the Diamond Princess was 2%. That's the only experiment we have where we had a large enough population sample and yet knew everyone who had it and who did not.
Because there aren't enough tests to go around for significant numbers of asymptomatic people to be getting tested.
And just because you test negative one day doesn't mean you won't catch it the next day.
Those numbers are what they've been telling us since day one.
So......are 80% of cases asymptomatic or mild to the point of being easily mistaken for the regular flu or even a common cold?
Or not?
Because, they keep telling us that asymptomatic spread is the entire reason for the shut downs.
You can't have it both ways....
So pick one.....
(And you can't use people on a confined small space like a cruise ship as any sort of standard, cruise passengers also tend to be older, not exactly an accurate representation of a cross section of society)
Well glad you didn't write it because it's incredibly stupid...
Seriously. That's a decade's worth of misinformation, hypobole, and twisted logic, and outright falsehood.
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Some good points in that. The virus evolves to what politicians want it to be apparently.
Actually what's evolving is our knowledge of the virus, how to treat it, and how to avoid getting it in the first place. Pay attention.
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The death rate is not high, when taking into consideration the high number of people waltzing around town who are either asymptomatic, think they have a cold, or encountered the virus in the past and got over it without knowing they even had it.
Well, golly, maybe we should be testing more people more often then?
Do you even know what you're talking about? If you don't understand simple things, don't talk. You know how that saying goes.
I understand that you want to have your cake and eat it too.
You want to keep the shutdowns going because of asymptomatic transmission.....
But you don't want to include the number of undiagnosed asymptomatic people in the total number of cases.......
Because doing so slashes the mortality rate.
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