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Old 05-20-2020, 05:44 PM
 
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Experts are sometimes wrong, therefore we should put non-experts in charge of critical things.

For example, pilots sometimes land at the wrong airport. Therefore we should get rid of pilots and have fast food workers fly planes instead.

Right?!

 
Old 05-20-2020, 06:24 PM
 
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If you really want to start understanding what goes on behind the curtain you have to first understand that the "experts" are almost always wrong. A lot of this is intentional in various forms of propaganda and disinformation.

But the majority of the public continues to believe the "experts" lol..........
 
Old 05-20-2020, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Experts are sometimes wrong, therefore we should put non-experts in charge of critical things.

For example, pilots sometimes land at the wrong airport. Therefore we should get rid of pilots and have fast food workers fly planes instead.

Right?!

Learn to fly your own plane.
 
Old 05-20-2020, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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If you really want to start understanding what goes on behind the curtain you have to first understand that the "experts" are almost always wrong. A lot of this is intentional in various forms of propaganda and disinformation.

But the majority of the public continues to believe the "experts" lol..........

Because they can't or won't think for themselves.
 
Old 05-20-2020, 06:30 PM
 
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Because they can't or won't think for themselves.
Exactly!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-1aVVEKep0
 
Old 05-20-2020, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Old 05-20-2020, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Because they can't or won't think for themselves.
It always amazes me that people who tow the party line 100% of the time are the ones who are always bragging that they "think for themselves".

It's because of "experts" that we learned that viruses existed in the first place.

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Old 05-20-2020, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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It always amazes me that people who tow the party line 100% of the time are the ones who are always bragging that they "think for themselves".

"Tow" the party line? Are we talking about water skiing here?


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/...the-party-line
 
Old 05-20-2020, 08:08 PM
 
Location: AZ
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What’s wrong with letting the bean counters run everything? It’s been that way for 40 years. Nothing bad has happened. Unless you consider the near total loss of our ability to make anything.
Oh I know, I was attempting to use levity in my agreement with your premise! Which is also to say, the bean-counters have really f’d us all; capitalism taken to its logical conclusion is all about profit at the expense of others, nothing more.

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Old 05-21-2020, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Everything the "experts" got wrong about the Coronavirus pandemic:
It has been suggested that Professor Neil Ferguson report msy have been out by as much as 20%, however does this eve matter.

20% out in terms of the US would mean at the lower end 1.8 million deaths rather than the 2.2 million that Fergusons report cited, whilst in terms of the upper scale it would have meant up to around 2.6 million deaths. So

In the UK it might have meant 400,00 deaths instead of 500,000 or 20% the other way which would have been 600,000.

On a global scale it might have meant 30 million deaths instead of 40 million or in terms of 20% deaths the other way, up to 50 million.

However does it realy matter as it's still a significant amount of deaths and in terms of Imperial they published numerous Covid-19 reports as well as video Q&A sessions.

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Originally Posted by The Critic

In the two months since it was published, the Imperial College paper and computer model for Covid-19 have been widely criticized for, among other things: the poor quality of its code, its opaqueness, the variability and instability of its predictions, the lack of QA, the long delay before it was made available and the apparent polishing of the code by Microsoft engineers before it was fit to be seen in public. As recently as the past few days, fresh attacks have been made in the Telegraph and Spectator

Were these criticisms to be partly or even entirely true, they’d still be almost completely beside the point. They amount to claims that the model’s predictions might have been out by ~20%. When the paper was published in mid-March uncertainties of such a size were utterly irrelevant to the consequent decisions.

To worry about 20% differences in mortality under those circumstances is like sitting in a beach bar, knowing a tsunami is headed your way and debating whether the incoming wave will be 12m high or only 10m. In either case, it won’t affect your decision on whether to have another piña colada.

In Defence of Neil Ferguson | Simon Anthony | The Critic

COVID-19 | Faculty of Medicine | Imperial College London


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