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We've not had 3K deaths in 1 day yet. April 21, 2683 deaths, was the 1 day peak. April 18 was peak week when we averaged 2,100/day. We've been under 2K every day since May 7.
So, after you and OP say that, at what point are we to start the discussion?
Because 3000 virus deaths are not the same as 3000 terrorist deaths and they never will be.
The virus deaths are all tragic to be sure, but the fact is a non thinking, non feeling disease that kills mostly older people with underlying conditions is not the same thing as a terrorist flying an airplane into a building.
You're attempting to say a death is a death no matter the cause.
We're saying.....No, it's not.
Not even close.
Aaaaaand you are back to being a troll making up things I never said. Literally said the opposite of that.
Nope, I think it's more relevant to compare to an event that most people alive today lived through. That's what analogies are about, trying to make things relatable. In this case, two major life events. Would you consider Spanish flu a relatable life event for yourself? 9/11 and Covid are both "remember when" moments that we will all still remember years from now.
The events of 9/11 and Covid-19 are not in any way comparable.
I've heard a lot of people say that media is overblowing this, using big numbers, but that really, if you look at the entire US Population, this is not as big a deal as the media makes it out to be.
We are currently seeing about 3000 people per day dying from COVID, or COVID related reasons. That is about the same number as the entire 9/11 toll.
Me, I think both are horrible.
My questions to those who think COVID is being over-blown by the media:
-Do you think that 9/11 was overblown?
-Do you think that our reaction was?
-Do you think that we should accept more terrorism, in the name of freedom?
-OR do you think it's a good idea to monitor the POTENTIAL threat, and proactively deal with it?
If you think our 9/11 response was/is mostly appropriate, what is the basis for your difference with COVID?
And do you challenge the statement that more people (about 30x more) died from COVID than 9/11. If you challenge 30x, what number is it for you? 20x? 10x? and how to you come to that number.
Mostly, what is the basis for your difference, if you have a difference on the answer to those questions.
Just curious, and my answer is that for the most part, both reactions were legit. In both cases, there was some over-reaction but on the whole, I am not overly critical about either response. With hindsight, I guess both/either could be improved, but I was/am not Monday Quarterbacking either.
I'm trying to be kind here. in all seriousness, this comparison is a logical fallacy. There is no comparison between an illness and a terrorist attack. its insanity.
I mean if we are going to make crazy comparisons, are you this insane over heart disease? cancer? both of those are VASTLY more deadly and kill vastly more people.
Personally i know that COVID is a deadly disease. BUT it is also being over played. The media are doing harm. We cant get to a normal because people are so freaked out because of certain politicians and the media over playing this.
We don't have the kind of data we need to understand what is going on and where. That is a result of a CDC that is just crap and has been crap for decades. It is a function of States with terrible record keeping and evidently hiring idiots to do their data. AND people in charge who are more interested in telling us what they want us to hear rather than the actual facts.
Did we intentionally destroy the economy and shred the Bill of Rights after 9/11?
Yes, it seems like we did.In response to a single day loss of 3,000 lives we consciously abdicated many of our rights to privacy and created an entire new layer of bureaucracy in the guise of "Homeland Security". We then proceeded to sacrifice the lives of thousands of soldiers and civilians at tremendous cost for twenty years in un-winnable wars.
In comparison, fighting a winnable battle with a virus that could potentially kill far more than 3000 Americans per day if left unchecked seems a far better choice in my book.
(To all the others who are deflecting):
And nobody is comparing a natural disaster to a terrorist attack, I am asking your opinion on the RESPONSE.
Does the terrorist attack evoke emotions in you, and that is why you can't compare the response? I keep on hearing that "the response of COVID is not justified due to the relatively low number of deaths".
That's how it sounds. Now don't get all defensive, just tell me your thoughts. If you stand by them, there is no reason to get defensive, just help me understand your logic. (Maybe I'll see things differently if you respond)
It's interesting in our "lens of worldview" that is what you are reading/hearing.
There are a select few that say "no worse than the flu" - and I don't know why you wouldn't ask them when you see them type/hear them say "What makes you say that?"
There were far more saying this very early on, at the outset based on actual deaths. What we KNOW about COVID *at this time:
-longer incubation period than flu
-more contagious than the flu
-more deadly than the flu*
-it affects the aged and infirmed much worse than any other group
*but as we progress, with asymptomatic recoveries and antibody tests, it's possible it will be much less than 10x more deadly overall than the flu.
What I hear people say is - we shut the entire country down when we knew what were the actual at-risk groups..
So my "lens of wordlview" revolves around - why aren't we laser-focused on the at-risk groups, instead of hitting the entire population with the same cudgel?
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