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"Scientists"? Hahahahahaha! Bwah-hahahahah! If they're scientists, then I'm Donald Trump.
"Scientists" also say that the world is heating up when it's -20*F outside. They lie as often as they talk, and they talk a lot. The only places those "scientists" should be in is Florence ADX or Pelican Bay, given they damage they did to the American society. At least those prisons will give them plenty of opportunities to practice social distancing, like they want everybody and their brother to do.
I agree....No more. I would rather rise up and fight then accept any more of it. No more corona kool aid. No to the socialist coronavirus plot. No more
Okay. Are you willing to wear masks and practice proper social distancing when out and about? Every single time? I’m not for closing again either but I am definitely for taking reasonable precautions going forward.
"Scientists"? Hahahahahaha! Bwah-hahahahah! If they're scientists, then I'm Donald Trump.
"Scientists" also say that the world is heating up when it's -20*F outside. They lie as often as they talk, and they talk a lot. The only places those "scientists" should be in is Florence ADX or Pelican Bay, given they damage they did to the American society. At least those prisons will give them plenty of opportunities to practice social distancing, like they want everybody and their brother to do.
“I was doing great until you told me I had engine problems! If I didn’t know I had engine problems I wouldn’t have had engine problems!”
They modeled several different scenarios on 16 countries, including Australia, Mexico, Belgium, South Africa and Nigeria.
In the first scenario, no mitigation or social-distancing measures were imposed. In every single country, this led to the number of patients requiring treatment in intensive care units (ICUs) quickly and significantly exceeding available capacity. Ultimately, this would result in 7.8 million deaths across the countries included in the analysis, researchers said, and the duration of the epidemic would be almost 200 days in the majority of those nations.
The second scenario modeled a rolling cycle of 50-day "mitigation measures" followed by a 30-day period where those measures were relaxed. Analysts defined mitigation measures as strategies that gradually reduced the number of new infections, such as social distancing, hygiene rules, isolating individuals with the virus, school closures and restricting large public events. These measures did not include a total lockdown.
This scenario was likely to reduce the R number — the reproduction rate of the virus — to 0.8 in all countries, the study showed. However, while it proved effective for the first three months, after the first relaxation period scientists found the number of patients requiring ICU care would exceed hospital capacities. This would lead to 3.5 million deaths across the 16 countries used in the simulation, with the pandemic lasting around 12 months in high income countries and at least 18 months in other nations.
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Researchers also modeled a third scenario, which involved a rolling cycle of stricter "suppression measures" for 50 days followed by a 30-day relaxation period. Suppression measures were defined as those that led to a faster reduction in the number of new infections, achieved by applying strict lockdown measures on top of other mitigation measures.
In the third, most stringent scenario, the R number would be reduced to 0.5 and keep ICU demand within national capacity across all countries, scientists concluded. As more people would remain susceptible to catching the virus at the end of each cycle, however, the pandemic would be prolonged and last for more than 18 months in all countries.
But the Covid-19 death toll during the pandemic would be significantly reduced in this scenario, with just over 130,000 deaths expected across the 16 countries included the analysis.
Here's my problem with this.
1- If those smaller countries want to inflict that upon themselves - fine. It would never work here. We would basically be working as a fully functional country approx 136 days out of the year.
2- Between the second and third model, which both focus on a 50/30 scenario - what advanced suppression measures would make a change in the death rate from 3.5 million to 130,000? That's a 96% reduction in deaths. Sorry - not buying it.
3- The recovery rate from COVID in the US is somewhere around 90-95% - much higher if you exclude those over 60. If these models are predicting 7.8 million deaths and 3.5 million deaths - how many people are going to get the virus and recover? Does the first model predict 70 million people acquiring the virus and recovering? Does the second scenario - with some suppression measures - predict over 30 million cases of COVID? See - you can do anything you want with the numbers.
4- This isn't science... it's fun with numbers. There's no control data... there are no experiments... there is no methodology. It's just people with calculators. And when they are wrong, they recalculate and put out new numbers. And because they are considered experts, we need to gulp down their kool-aid.
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Look at their current death numbers and tell me how they would ever get up to millions of deaths. Those five countries total over 16,000 deaths in the past 3 months.
Now I don't know who else is on the list of countries - but if these are the headliners, it is unrealistic that millions of deaths would occur.
In the entire world after 3 months, there are 346,000+ deaths. They are predicting 10 times the amount of deaths in only 16 countries under the second model with suppression measures. It's ridiculous.
Okay. Are you willing to wear masks and practice proper social distancing when out and about? Every single time? I’m not for closing again either but I am definitely for taking reasonable precautions going forward.
No I am not. I am done with the phones baloney coronavirus panic. I will not and never will take this hoax seriously. Clear enough?
"Scientists"? Hahahahahaha! Bwah-hahahahah! If they're scientists, then I'm Donald Trump.
"Scientists" also say that the world is heating up when it's -20*F outside. They lie as often as they talk, and they talk a lot. The only places those "scientists" should be in is Florence ADX or Pelican Bay, given they damage they did to the American society.
It is kind of ironic that this is following the pattern of Climate Change.
1) Scientists point out the truth from a purely scientific standpoint.
2) Right wing thinks that it is a conspiracy to ruin the economy rather than actual science regarding the atmosphere or the virus or whatever
3) Right wingers want the scientists thrown in jail.
It is kind of ironic that this is following the pattern of Climate Change.
1) Scientists point out the truth from a purely scientific standpoint.
2) Right wing thinks that it is a conspiracy to ruin the economy rather than actual science regarding the atmosphere or the virus or whatever
3) Right wingers want the scientists thrown in jail.
Trips me out. My younger sister majors in biology. She's gonna get her master's this year.
She just got a job to help in a lab for processing the C19 tests. She loves what she does, as do many people in their field. In the same way I enjoy anything relating to animation/programming.
So because people like her report their findings, you want them thrown in jail? What?
It's more like a child throwing a tantrum because he can't see his forhead...
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