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Old 05-27-2020, 05:55 PM
 
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He could have videotaped her all he wanted and then showed animal control and avoided a one on one confrontation.


But that's not what he did.
Why do that when he could get her fired and ruin her life?
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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No, and neither did this woman. Everything she said was accurate - an African American man was threatening her in the park. And any reasonable person could interpret his statement and actions as threatening.
True, in the sense that her exact words were that the African-American man was threatening her and her dog. However, the real context is that she was screaming hysterically into her phone that she was being threatened, which would likely be interpreted by the person receiving the call as her being in immediate danger of losing her life or being physically attacked. She was not in any danger of that at all. THAT was what put Christian Cooper in danger - if the police had showed up and believed that he HAD attacked her.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:04 PM
 
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Why was it important that he was an African American man threatening her, couldn't she just as easily indicated a man. She was wrong, she could have just taken her dog an left the park. I hope she doesn't lose her job over this but she was acting foolish especially grabbing her dog by the collar and lifting him up and making believe her life was endangered.
She did lose her job and her employer publicly accused her of racism over this. I hope she sues over that bit of libel. How is she supposed to get another job after that? Saying she was being threatened by an African American man in the park was true from her perspective. Since when did descriptors become racist? People are just hyper-sensitive because that guy in Minnesota just got killed, but that doesn’t mean the police would have done that in this situation. The guy seems pretty calm and able to handle himself around the police.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:09 PM
 
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True, in the sense that her exact words were that the African-American man was threatening her and her dog. However, the real context is that she was screaming hysterically into her phone that she was being threatened, which would likely be interpreted by the person receiving the call as her being in immediate danger of losing her life or being physically attacked. She was not in any danger of that at all. THAT was what put Christian Cooper in danger - if the police had showed up and believed that he HAD attacked her.
So every time a person calls the police on a black person they are putting that person’s life in danger? I reject that theory entirely. He said since she was going to do what she wanted to do then he was going to do what he wanted to do and she was not going to like it. Then he attempted to call her dog over to him and give the dog treats from his pocket. How on earth was she supposed to interpret that except as a threat to her and her dog?
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:25 PM
 
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It's not fascism, it's called paying the consequences for your actions. Her action of calling 911 could have gotten that man KILLED. Or are you not paying attention to what happened in your own state the other day?

She knew what she was doing, she knew what would happen if the cops came. She TOLD him she was going to say a black man was threatening her life. What do YOU think would have happened? That you are not bothered by the fact that this man could have lost his life just because some entitled witch got her nose out of joint because a black man told her to leash her dog tells me that you think her life is more important than his.

Again, personal responsibility. Actions have consequences.
They don’t want her to face consequences because they hate the person who is causing her to have to face the consequences so much. I mean, the hatred is incredible.

Black men can’t win with these people. Be responsible and reject bad behavior, and these people STILL hate you if you don’t stay in your place.

By narcking out a whites woman and causing her hardship, he’s evil. That’s how the game goes.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:27 PM
 
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She did lose her job and her employer publicly accused her of racism over this. I hope she sues over that bit of libel. How is she supposed to get another job after that? Saying she was being threatened by an African American man in the park was true from her perspective. Since when did descriptors become racist? People are just hyper-sensitive because that guy in Minnesota just got killed, but that doesn’t mean the police would have done that in this situation. The guy seems pretty calm and able to handle himself around the police.
This had NOTHING to do with what was going on in Minnesota and you know it. This is a stand alone incident.

She tried to weaponize race in her indictment of this man with hopes that the NYPD would bust his head open. She knew exactly what she was doing.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:30 PM
 
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So every time a person calls the police on a black person they are putting that person’s life in danger? I reject that theory entirely. He said since she was going to do what she wanted to do then he was going to do what he wanted to do and she was not going to like it. Then he attempted to call her dog over to him and give the dog treats from his pocket. How on earth was she supposed to interpret that except as a threat to her and her dog?
Why didn't she just leash the dog beforehand as he requested and avoid all the kerfuffle? That would have been the intelligent thing to do - no harm, no foul, and no video. See how easy that would have been?
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:31 PM
 
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So every time a person calls the police on a black person they are putting that person’s life in danger? I reject that theory entirely. He said since she was going to do what she wanted to do then he was going to do what he wanted to do and she was not going to like it. Then he attempted to call her dog over to him and give the dog treats from his pocket. How on earth was she supposed to interpret that except as a threat to her and her dog?
Damn right it’s a threat. Of course you reject it, because you don’t believe the cops can do any wrong.

Not ALL calls against black suspects are threats to their lives. There are OF COURSE legitimate reasons to call the cops on black suspects. But when she told Cooper that she was gonna mention the fact that he was black, she effectively weaponized her whiteness with the expectation that the NYPD would be fellow travelers in her attempted weaponization of her status. And to pretend that her status as a white woman isn’t extremely high in American society is laughable at best. She automatically sits on a lofty perch, and she Damn well knew it just like you know it about yourself.

You folks are something else.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:35 PM
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So every time a person calls the police on a black person they are putting that person’s life in danger? I reject that theory entirely. He said since she was going to do what she wanted to do then he was going to do what he wanted to do and she was not going to like it. Then he attempted to call her dog over to him and give the dog treats from his pocket. How on earth was she supposed to interpret that except as a threat to her and her dog?

In hindsight if she knew her job hung in the balance she would have not treated this binocular wielding black man so disrespectfully. Corporate America is listening black people even if the courts keep turning a deaf ear. So now every time you call the police on a black man it could cost you your livelihood.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:41 PM
 
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He was filming her. He wasn't wielding a gun or brandishing another weapon, just filming her. The threat is pretty obvious in my mind, 'I'm going to post you having a damn breakdown and falsely accusing me.'

Or do you automatically think black man + 'you're not going to like it' = physical violence?
That's a good question.

Many women, myself included are going to automatically think any strange man of any color + 'you're not going to like it' = possible physical violence.

Not sure why that is difficult to understand.

Add the dog in and it becomes are you threatening me, my dog or both of us with possible physical violence.
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