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View Poll Results: Would you take a coronavirus/COVID-19/WuFlu immunization if available?
yes 99 50.00%
no 67 33.84%
maybe 29 14.65%
other, explain below 3 1.52%
Voters: 198. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-01-2020, 07:41 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Anti-vaccinationists helped to fuel the epidemic of measles in Samoa last year that resulted in 82 deaths, mostly children. That is how the anti-vaccine movement kills.
Lol, no Suzy. The UN vaccination campaign killed those kids by immunizing kids who were already sick from the Measles with a cheap Indian knockoff of the MMR. I've been friends with Edwin Tamasese, the man who was jailed for trying to warn the Samoan parents, since October 2019. His vitamin C protocol saved every kid he treated. You have no idea what was really going on in Samoa.

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Vaccines do not cause SIDS. No "alleged" about it.
Again; no, Suzy. I don't care how the epidemiology presents; those numbers have been crunched backwards, forwards, upside down & sideways to swing it. Vaccines cause SIDS. Period.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Lol, no Suzy. The UN vaccination campaign killed those kids by immunizing kids who were already sick from the Measles with a cheap Indian knockoff of the MMR. I've been friends with Edwin Tamasese, the man who was jailed for trying to warn the Samoan parents, since October 2019. His vitamin C protocol saved every kid he treated. You have no idea what was really going on in Samoa.

Again; no, Suzy. I don't care how the epidemiology presents; those numbers have been crunched backwards, forwards, upside down & sideways to swing it. Vaccines cause SIDS. Period.
Kids who were already sick with measles were not vaccinated. The measles epidemic in Samoa was stopped by getting the vaccination rate back up to herd immunity levels.

Vitamin C will not treat measles.

The numbers have been crunched and there is no evidence that any vaccines cause SIDS.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:47 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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"Personalized vaccines" are currently not feasible, although there is research in that direction.

"Over 10%" of the population do not have serious adverse reactions to vaccines. It is one in a million. "Over 10%" of the population do not have "death or disability" from vaccines.
Then why would those people who needed to wait for a personalized vaccine, be enough to disrupt their goal of herd immunity (80-90%)?

If those genetically predisposed to adverse events were really one in a million; why would it upset their uptake metrics?

BS.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:51 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Kids who were already sick with measles were not vaccinated. The measles epidemic in Samoa was stopped by getting the vaccination rate back up to herd immunity levels.

Vitamin C will not treat measles.
They were & the vitamin C worked for that population because they were deficient.

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The numbers have been crunched and there is no evidence that any vaccines cause SIDS.
Of course not. That would be an antivaccine study. And only the epidemiology, which can be easily biased, shows 'no evidence'. There is a lot of etiological evidence.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:52 PM
 
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Really? We are wasting time and money to produce a vaccine for a virus with a 99% survival rate without it? Oh right...fearmongering....
Sure except for you grandma who is 70. Pneumonia is a really painful way to die. People just don’t think.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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They were & the vitamin C worked for that population because they were deficient.

Of course not. That would be an antivaccine study. And only the epidemiology, which can be easily biased, shows 'no evidence'. There is a lot of etiological evidence.

Source that confirms that vitamin C deficiency is a problem in Samoa? Confirmation that your friend the coconut farmer measured vitamin C levels in anyone he "treated"?

Epidemiological evidence is "etiological evidence". Anecdotes are not.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:10 PM
 
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As long as it's tested and safe. I won't be standing in line for the trial runs through as I want to wait til it's fully FDA approved first.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:42 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Depopulation is what you get when you forgo vaccination. To each their own
Riiiight ... That's why population has been in an almost vertical decince the early 1960s. (sarc)
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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No, if Boris Johnson can survive it, I like my chances.
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:02 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Source that confirms that vitamin C deficiency is a problem in Samoa? Confirmation that your friend the coconut farmer measured vitamin C levels in anyone he "treated"?
Yes, Edwin is a coconut farmer in Samoa. Do you happen to have any contacts who had boots on the ground in Samoa during the measles outbreak? The vitamin C (& A) worked.

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Epidemiological evidence is "etiological evidence". Anecdotes are not.
Wrong. Etiology is the study of causation or origination. Epidemiology is the study and analysis of the distribution of health and disease conditions.
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