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There is no pandemic in the general population. The only pandemic is in the nursing homes. Just so you know, there are liberals that can see through this scam too.
You should be made to attend the funeral of any of the tends of thousands in general population who have died of corona virus. Maybe make some speech about your bat**** crazy irrational conspiracy theories and tell them they are all actors and nobody is in the coffin.
The reason the right-wingers are opposed to wearing masks, is because Trump doesn't wear one. He doesn't wear one, because that would be the same as admitting that he was wrong about saying the epidemic was a minor thing, that would soon disappear, as if by magic. Of course, if Trump started wearing a mask and telling people it was an important thing to do, his sycophants would quickly emulate him, to demonstrate their fealty to Dear Leader. Is he too foolish to realize that if fewer of his base contracts the virus and dies, the more votes he will receive?
The reason the right-wingers are opposed to wearing masks, is because Trump doesn't wear one. He doesn't wear one, because that would be the same as admitting that he was wrong about saying the epidemic was a minor thing, that would soon disappear, as if by magic. Of course, if Trump started wearing a mask and telling people it was an important thing to do, his sycophants would quickly emulate him, to demonstrate their fealty to Dear Leader. Is he too foolish to realize that if fewer of his base contracts the virus and dies, the more votes he will receive?
It’s certainly not Trumps base who are rioting everywhere abd not “social dustancingâ€
It's not a question of caring "nothing", but of considering the alternatives. A virus or other malady that disproportionately affects kids, teens and young-adults, is a brutal loss of productivity. It's an awful return on investment, of parenting and education and so forth. A virus that disproportionately affects the very old - really, not so much 60+ as 75+ - is foreclosing the lives of persons into whom society has already invested, and how have in turn invested in society. That doesn't render their deaths nugatory or some mere asterisk on the statistic of what it means to be human, but it does mean, that the relative loss is in fact less, than it would have been, had the deaths been concentrated among people whose working lives and reproductive lives and so forth, are still ahead of them.
Then there's the raw calculation of years. If little Billy dies at age 10, that's maybe 75 years of human life lost. If 75 year-old Old William dies, that's maybe a decade of human life lost. Little Billy might be the obnoxious urchin down the street, while Old William might be still be a practicing scientist who lectures and does research and mentors graduate students. Old William might have been my dad (too young, but never mind), whereas Little Billy might have toilet-papered my house, back when TP was still cheap and accessible.
But can we make that normative judgment? The numbers say, that the loss of little Billy is some 7 or 8 times more tragic, than that of grand Old William.
None of that has anything to do with wearing masks to reduce the spread of Covid. That's what we're talking about here.
You should be made to attend the funeral of any of the tends of thousands in general population who have died of corona virus. Maybe make some speech about your bat**** crazy irrational conspiracy theories and tell them they are all actors and nobody is in the coffin.
No serious person would assert that the deaths are fake, or insignificant, or some distant and irrelevant trauma that happens to other people, but can't/won't happen to us. That's not the debate. The debate is quite simply, which of several alternatives - all bad - is the relatively lesser evil.
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None of that has anything to do with wearing masks to reduce the spread of Covid. That's what we're talking about here.
The point is that in the panoply of horrible events. Some horrors are relatively less heinous, than others. And this being so, the burden - be it one of preventative measures, inconvenience, costs to be borne, losses of some kind, uncertainty, trepidation and so forth and so on - needs to be reevaluated, in light of what we know, about who dies, in what number, and in what circumstances. Assuredly, this can sound callous, harsh and heartless. Maybe it is. But no life is saved for free. Every life saved, even if it's saved convincingly, comes at a cost. Somebody is on the receiving end, paying that cost. Is it reasonable to expect for that cost to be paid with absolutely no grumbling, with absolutely unalloyed alacrity and good cheer? Or might we, might we just perhaps, expect some pushback and irritation?
The Loony Left's collective heads are exploding because they are slamming the President for not wearing a mask and withdrawing funds from the WHO, but the WHO said today that masks are useless unless you are a medical professional
Businesses have not reopened in NYC but they are Covid fearlessly protesting ?! The farce exposed! Thanks to socialists Di Blasio and Cuomo among others of their gang in the left bench in Capitol Hill, it is evident the plandemia.
This isn't true. So what if they have health issues. They aren't about to die from diabetes, asthma, or high blood pressure. What's your point? These people don't count? The majority of these people are between the ages of 30 and 65, which are people still working and can't stay home. So what is your point?
None among us is entirely free of issues, whether of mind or body, of disposition or character. None of us is infinite, immune, or otherwise elected. And none of us is irreplaceable. And yet, and yet, the tragedy of any one of us "shuffling off this mortal coil", is not exactly equal. The point, is that who dies, matters just as much as how many die. The point, is that what's lost by this particular person, or that particular person dying just now, instead of at some indeterminate future, varies in magnitude of loss, in proportion to the distance between the now, and this future.
If a falling tree collapses the roof of a poorly built house, or one so aged that it's half-condemned, the loss isn't nearly as painful or acute, as if the house were fresh and sturdy. Yes, regardless of the case, the occupants lose their house. The house has fallen. No such event of a falling-tree, is to be greeted with blithe dismissal. And yet, and yet, the grief is not the same. That is the point.
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