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Old 05-30-2020, 01:33 AM
 
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There is far more at stake in the long run. If America is seen as unreliable by the rest of the world, we are going to lose big time.
Does anyone think pulling the U.S. out of the WHO because Trump needs someone to blame makes the U.S. sound reliable? Is NATO next? Then the UN?

Are Trump supporters so blind to Trump that the only organization that can support is one where Trump controls it? Are these the kind of people that paid to attend Trump University?
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Old 05-30-2020, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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We've been paying the WHO Billions of Dollars, while China has been paying much less.

Trumps demanded answers on the C-19 virus and why people were allowed to travel outbound from Wuhan all over the World AFTER the severity of the virus was known, and was being concealed.

Members of the United Nations are required to fund parts of the WHO, so if trump withdrew all funding from WHO, then that will be in violation of the United Nations, and Trump's next step might be to pull us out of the UN, or the UN might discharge the U.S for being in violation of its rules.

Trump is also is expelling ~10,000 Chinese students, and restricting some travelers from China into the U.S..

Trump is also removing some Chinese backed companies from our stock exchanges because they are not following the same rules the U.S. follows.

The word sanctions never came up in Trumps press conference today however.
Great, tired of wasting USA money on a counter productive organization that is a pawn of the CCP.

I'm sure whenever the Dems get back in control this will be reversed and our money wasted again.
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Old 05-30-2020, 02:45 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Does anyone think pulling the U.S. out of the WHO because Trump needs someone to blame makes the U.S. sound reliable? Is NATO next? Then the UN?

Are Trump supporters so blind to Trump that the only organization that can support is one where Trump controls it? Are these the kind of people that paid to attend Trump University?
The WHO lied at the behest of the Chinese and it did hurt our effort to reduce the spread of covid-19, do you doubt that?
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Old 05-30-2020, 02:47 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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We've been paying the WHO Billions of Dollars, while China has been paying much less.

Trumps demanded answers on the C-19 virus and why people were allowed to travel outbound from Wuhan all over the World AFTER the severity of the virus was known, and was being concealed.

Members of the United Nations are required to fund parts of the WHO, so if trump withdrew all funding from WHO, then that will be in violation of the United Nations, and Trump's next step might be to pull us out of the UN, or the UN might discharge the U.S for being in violation of its rules.

Trump is also is expelling ~10,000 Chinese students, and restricting some travelers from China into the U.S..

Trump is also removing some Chinese backed companies from our stock exchanges because they are not following the same rules the U.S. follows.

The word sanctions never came up in Trumps press conference today however.
I think that the U.N. and its organizations were established to foster civilization, not demolish it. Time for the U.S. to leave the U.N.
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:25 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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We've been paying the WHO Billions of Dollars, while China has been paying much less.
The dues countries pay to the WHO are calculated by a country's wealth and population. And since America is the worlds wealthiest country the US pays the highest WHO dues.
https://www.who.int/about/finances-a...tributions/en/

China is the WHO's second largest funder.
https://howmuch.net/articles/who-contribution

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Trumps demanded answers on the C-19 virus and why people were allowed to travel outbound from Wuhan all over the World AFTER the severity of the virus was known, and was being concealed.
The WHO is composed of representatives from 194 countries. And "the WHO has played a leading role in the eradication of smallpox, the near-eradication of polio, and the development of an Ebola vaccine. Its current priorities include communicable diseases, particularly HIV/AIDS, Ebola, malaria and tuberculosis; and non-communicable diseases such as heart disease and cancer."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...l_institutions

In a world with new and dangerous contagious diseases, why would you want to eliminate funding for a 195 country organization that studies and combats the spread of contagious diseases?

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Members of the United Nations are required to fund parts of the WHO, so if trump withdrew all funding from WHO, then that will be in violation of the United Nations, and Trump's next step might be to pull us out of the UN, or the UN might discharge the U.S for being in violation of its rules.
During the coronavirus outbreak China allowed outbound travel from Wuhan all over the World, but China did not allow travel from Wuhan to other parts of China.

There should be a international investigation into China's role in the cornavirus outbreak. And the UN is a 193 country international organization that investigates and punishes countries for crimes like that. But as you said above Trump also threatens to remove America from the UN.

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Trump is also is expelling ~10,000 Chinese students, and restricting some travelers from China into the U.S..

Trump is also removing some Chinese backed companies from our stock exchanges because they are not following the same rules the U.S. follows.

The word sanctions never came up in Trumps press conference today however.
The republicans current attacks on China are a 2020 election strategy. Internal GOP polls show that attacking China will give republicans the best odds of winning 2020 elections.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrews.../#649c08e93473
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...navirus-207244
https://www.newsweek.com/dont-defend...paigns-1500270
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-...ovid-19-2020-4


And Donald Trump is falsely attacking the WHO to cover-up his own failings with the coronavirus outbreak.

January-10- 2020, "The WHO issued a comprehensive package of technical guidance online with advice to all countries on how to detect, test and manage potential cases, based on what was known about the virus at the time. This guidance was shared with WHO's regional emergency directors to share with WHO representatives in countries."

January-22- 2020, The WHO "issued a statement saying that there was evidence of human-to-human transmission in Wuhan."

January-30- 2020, The WHO said the "outbreak constituted a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC). The Director-General accepted the recommendation and declared the novel coronavirus outbreak (2019-nCoV) a PHEIC."
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail...ine---covid-19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization


March-8- 2020, President Trump was playing golf and saying "the coronavirus is nothing for Americans to worry about."
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...irus-timeline/

And the WHO warned president Trump about the coronavirus in 2019 (but Donald Trump did not listen or care.)
https://www.businessinsider.com/amer...st-year-2020-4
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:38 AM
 
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Does anyone think pulling the U.S. out of the WHO because Trump needs someone to blame makes the U.S. sound reliable? Is NATO next? Then the UN?

Are Trump supporters so blind to Trump that the only organization that can support is one where Trump controls it? Are these the kind of people that paid to attend Trump University?
I don't think Trump is pulling out of the WHO bc he needs someone to blame,

I think he's pulling out bc the WHO has yet to criticize China for their lack of health standards in the wet market or lax security in their labs. In fact the WHO has praised China for their handling of the outbreak despite it spreading across the entire globe.

Trump blocked tourist flights from China , and the WHO said he was being racist. He wasn't being racist he was trying stop the spread of the virus. The world should find it a little more concerning the WHO was encouraging countries to accept flights from Wuhan during the peak of the virus instead of telling them to close all their borders off from China. If they told every country to close all their borders to China early on until China had the situation under control, it would have never spread.

We shouldnt be giving our tax dollars to this corrupt organization.


Taiwan has been a leader in calling out the WHO for being a puppet to China and did the opposite of what the WHO recommended.

I believe Taiwan NOT being in the WHO helped them contain the virus.
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:52 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yes, Xi Jinping has been very busy indeed killing 100,000 Americans and 1,000,000 across the globe with what is more and more looking like a biological attack.

Now, the Chinese tyrant will be brought to his knees by the Western World, led by President Trump.

China cannot feed its masses w/o Western export income. Japan, Australia, and the U.S. have already enacted legislation to begin the decoupling process from China.

Joe Biden helped build this Chinese monster, and voters will be reminded of this repeatedly as we near November 3rd. Joe was for the NTR & Chinese entry to the WTO. Look it up.

Trump has been warning the U.S. about China for many years. Biden was wrong, Trump was right.


Oh? Was Joe manufacturing products in China using/profiting from cheap Chinese labor like Trump U& Family were?
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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He's a busy little tyrant, isn't he?
Only in the wee minds of those who consider putting Americans first as tyrannical.
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Only in the wee minds of those who consider putting Americans first as tyrannical.
A CORE principle of the the Left is America HATE and in many ways Self Hate.
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Old 05-30-2020, 08:29 AM
 
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We've been paying the WHO Billions of Dollars, while China has been paying much less.

Trumps demanded answers on the C-19 virus and why people were allowed to travel outbound from Wuhan all over the World AFTER the severity of the virus was known, and was being concealed.

Members of the United Nations are required to fund parts of the WHO, so if trump withdrew all funding from WHO, then that will be in violation of the United Nations, and Trump's next step might be to pull us out of the UN, or the UN might discharge the U.S for being in violation of its rules.

Trump is also is expelling ~10,000 Chinese students, and restricting some travelers from China into the U.S..

Trump is also removing some Chinese backed companies from our stock exchanges because they are not following the same rules the U.S. follows.

The word sanctions never came up in Trumps press conference today however.
The only thing i agree with is the change with Chinese companies listed on US stock exchanges, and that’s not trump. That’s Congress.
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