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Is there any legitimate reason to start a thread about George Floyd be suffocated when the coroner determined weeks ago that he was not?
It doesn't matter. There is absolutely no excuse to put pressure on someone's neck. Even in the full video they had him in the car, instead of just closing the doors and taking him back to the station they took him out of the car. Why not just handcuff him, close the doors and have him arrested? You really think had it been, say, an attractive woman anyone would have kneeled on her neck till she died?
Actually, to the women here: I have a question. Say a woman was arrested high on drugs, even still, do you think it would be okay for a man to put all his weight on her neck till she dies?
At this point, say Derek and friends were summarily executed by a vigilante group wherein they tied all of them up, pressed their weight against their necks till they all died, would any of you care given they deserve it? Personally, I would love to put all my bodyweight on derek's neck and when he starts saying "i....can't.breathe!" I would just laugh and say "How many others have you arrested that felt the same way?"
It is reported that Officer Kueng checked for a pulse, failed to find a pulse, advised Officer Chauvin that he couldn't find a pulse, yet he and Chauvin continued to apply pressure on Floyd's back and neck for several more minutes.
If that is true, that is the fact that will send them to prison. Everything that occurred before that point would be irrelevant.
That said, he was ONE person - and a lowlife thug to boot. He had just committed yet another crime, and was high on drugs. His own children didn’t even recognize him. He was an ex-con who put a gun to a pregnant woman’s belly during a robbery.
In the meantime, dozens of people have been killed by the nationwide riots and destruction that have ensued as a result. Hundreds of black men (and even some children) have been murdered in cities by other black men. Government buildings have been burned down and businesses destroyed.
Did Floyd deserve to die? No. But neither did he deserve multiple memorial services, a televised funeral, and a gold casket. And neither did this country deserve to have sections of 40 cities burned, looted, and destroyed - and dozens of people killed - as a result.
(And before you do-gooders say it’s not that he was only ONE person but that it’s the final straw of police gunning down “innocent” unarmed black men - in 2019, there were a total of only nine (9) out of tens of millions of police encounters.)
Last edited by Rachel976; 08-10-2020 at 05:30 AM..
That said, he was ONE person - and a lowlife thing to boot. He had just committed yet another crime, and was high on drugs. His own children didn’t even recognize him. He was an ex-con who put a gun to a pregnant woman’s belly during a robbery.
In the meantime, dozens of people have been killed by the nationwide riots and destruction that have ensued as a result. Hundreds of black men (and even some children) have been murdered in cities by other black men. Government buildings have been burned down and businesses destroyed.
Did Floyd deserve to die? No. But neither did he deserve multiple memorial services, a televised funeral, and a gold casket. And neither did this country deserve to have sections of 40 cities burned, looted, and destroyed - and dozens of people killed - as a result.
(And before you do-gooders say it’s not that he was only ONE person but that it’s the final straw of police gunning down “innocent” unarmed black men - in 2019, there were a total of only nine (9) out of tens of millions of police encounters.)
The difference is that he was killed by government agents, and government agents are supposed to be under control.
They should not be comparable to criminals. It's illogical and irrelevant to do a "what about" comparing government agents to criminals.
The difference is that he was killed by government agents, and government agents are supposed to be under control.
They should not be comparable to criminals. It's illogical and irrelevant to do a "what about" comparing government agents to criminals.
As I said, it happens extremely rarely - nine cases of black unarmed men in all of 2019. And the fact that there are tens of millions of police encounters every year, millions with belligerent, high, and/or threatening men, tells me that in 99.9% of the cases, they ARE under control - and in threatening circumstances where split-second decisions must be made.
Sorry he’s dead, but the response has been an extreme over-reaction - demonizing an entire group of people for what 0.1% do - is the same thing as someone saying all blacks are scumbag looters (or whatever) for what a minute percentage do.
My hat is off to police, and for the dangerous and thankless jobs they do. Let’s prosecute the 0.1% who do wrong, but let’s not demonize the police while simultaneously deifying common thugs.
P.S. You’re referring to police as “government agents” sounds weird.
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