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Yes it matters. I think it underscores a major issue no one wants to acknowledge now. This issue is the reality that these neighborhoods where this type of incident happen in are always ghettos. These ghettos are filled with angry criminalistic people who detest authorities, hold society in contempt and harbor an intense racism towards White people. They have zero interest in their communities being changed or cleaned up. What they want is to be left as they are along with being given more government handouts.
The point I am trying to make is that it is impossible to enforce the law in these communities and not have violent conflict with these people. I am not saying those officers did not do wrong nor am I saying they should not be charged. What they did is shocking. I think though we should realize however that many officers in these communities become hard simply because they deal with nothing but trash day in and day out. Yes I said ghetto people are trash.....they are. They are parasites on our society. They live the way they do by choice. Most black people do not live like that so I am confused on why this is so important to most black people. Why do black people who live normal middle class lives sympathize with these hateful criminals who give all black people a bad name? Why? I’ll never understand that. These young white protesters would not last a minute in their local ghetto. The thugs would kill them.
This brings me to a question I’ve got for the protest crowd. What are your demands? Do you want to stop policing these neighborhoods and let these people just do what they do? Leave the crime in those areas unattended? Policing these areas will lead to more violent conflicts between police and black criminals so what do you want?
George Floyd was a criminal and not a good citizen. This is a fact...like it or not.
Winner post! Well said, danielj72.
George's death = NHI (no humans involved). I'd feel the same way if George was white or any other color.
Does it matter to you that Chauvin has his own checkered past when it comes to acceptable behavior?
Derek Chauvin, the Minneapolis police officer arrested in the death of George Floyd, opened fire on two people during his 19-year career. Eighteen conduct complaints were filed against him, two of which resulted in reprimands...
We don't sanction murder because people are not "good citizens". He had a criminal history and he served time for his offenses, that does not mean he gets a target on his forehead and it's open season for anyone who wants to to kill him.
Being arrested or having a criminal record is more common in the US than you might think:
That leaves you with a lot of people who you think deserve to die, doesn't it? I wonder how many of them you have actually met who just never bothered to tell you about their past. And given that blacks are about 13% of our population those figures indicate that not only black men get arrested or go to jail
I never said anyone deserved to die. Also you have a very emotional based argument here (as most leftists do) You think it’s not fair.....the poor criminals. They made choices and those choices have consequences. Once you’ve committed a serious crime like armed robbery then society deserves to be protected from your criminal nature. Let’s keep in prospective the difference between the youthful indiscretion type of crime like drinking and driving or smoking pot that many Americans do have on their records vs a true hardened criminal who breaks into houses or businesses. Big difference and you know it.
You also did not answer any of my questions but cherry picked the post to get an emotionally charged zinger in.
I’ll ask again? What should be done? How would you police these ghettos? Do you even expect them to conform to societies laws? If you do how would you make them follow the law if you do not like policing?
Feelings on this topic do not have to be one-dimensional. People can be absolutely outraged over the way Floyd died and still feel that his criminal lifestyle contributed to it.
Hey! We get to agree on something!
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Feelings on this topic do not have to be one-dimensional. People can be absolutely outraged over the way Floyd died and still feel that his criminal lifestyle contributed to it.
Once he is in cuffs and secured, the need for that kind of force is over. Look, George Floyd was a violent criminal and a trash human being. But still a human being. This is NOT OK for police to do that a person in custody that is no longer a threat. (Now if he were a child molester, quite honestly I would manage to look the other way-but that's just me).
These kinds of incidents are incredibly rare, and need to remain so.
If he was fighting with them BEFORE he was in handcuffs, how are they supposed to know he wasn't going to continue to fight with them once he was in handcuffs? I've seen people in handcuffs kick out police car windows. The knee against the neck was wrong. Was it racially motivated though? There's nothing to indicate that it was.
And why aren't the protesters practicing social distancing?
I’ll ask again? What should be done? How would you police these ghettos? Do you even expect them to conform to societies laws? If you do how would you make them follow the law if you do not like policing?
Did this occur in a ghetto?
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No, it does not matter. He was tortured and murdered by a cop. Full stop.
I am trying to figure out why I should feel THAT badly about a criminal who very probably committed many more crimes for which he was never caught. A leopard does not change its spots.
George Floyd was the kind of person that law-abiding citizens want off the streets. He was the kind of person that cause people to have to move to a different neighborhood to feel safe and stay away from that element in society.
Not a fan of people with a rap sheet but that to me is a separate issue. The man died completely and utterly in a way that was no where near acceptable.
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