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Old 06-07-2020, 08:28 PM
 
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Black unemployment rose in May.
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Old 06-07-2020, 09:25 PM
 
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Too soon to say if growth is exponential or not.

Why? Exponential growth saw a dozen cases turn into 100k cases in a month, from mid-March to mid-April. Many states have been starting to re-open since May 1.

Show me a graph of the last 60 days for a place you think is getting hit hard now. Hospitalizations. "Cases" are meaningless.
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Old 06-08-2020, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Why? Exponential growth saw a dozen cases turn into 100k cases in a month, from mid-March to mid-April. Many states have been starting to re-open since May 1.

Show me a graph of the last 60 days for a place you think is getting hit hard now. Hospitalizations. "Cases" are meaningless.
Ironically I happen to live in a state seeing a surge in hospitalizations along with cases in general... Arizona reopened about half a month ago and or hospital system is nearing capcity and we see over a 1,000 new cases a day under the lifted stay at home orders. Largely because people haven't written masks in AZ. In fact ventilators are nearing being all used up.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...es/3163102001/
https://tucson.com/news/local/arizon...82bda5d40.html
https://www.azfamily.com/news/contin...9e3f9109e.html
https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/e...ards/index.php

This all said I played your game even after you moved the goal posts, but don't move them again. Right now we don't have exponential growth and I hope Americans weren't stupid enough to get into enough situations for us too see exponential growth again. Nobody does.
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Old 06-08-2020, 08:20 AM
 
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Ironically I happen to live in a state seeing a surge in hospitalizations along with cases in general... Arizona reopened about half a month ago and or hospital system is nearing capcity and we see over a 1,000 new cases a day under the lifted stay at home orders. Largely because people haven't written masks in AZ. In fact ventilators are nearing being all used up.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...es/3163102001/
https://tucson.com/news/local/arizon...82bda5d40.html
https://www.azfamily.com/news/contin...9e3f9109e.html
https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/e...ards/index.php

This all said I played your game even after you moved the goal posts, but don't move them again. Right now we don't have exponential growth and I hope Americans weren't stupid enough to get into enough situations for us too see exponential growth again. Nobody does.

What goal posts were moved? I've always focused on hospitalizations because "cases" are a function of how many tests you do while hospitalizations is a function of how much serious illness is in the community.


Why do you think Arizona is having this issue where Texas and Georgia did not?
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Old 06-08-2020, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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In trump's America, we are now celebrating an unemployment rate of "only" 13.3%!
So profoundly true. After a correction the unemployment rate is really around 16.3%. So Trump was thrill over nothing: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-...ed/ar-BB156kRr
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Old 06-08-2020, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Haven't read the whole thread, but the WaPo engaging in skewed commentary shouldn't surprise.
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1269252198858440713
Well, no doubt, it's just like what Trump has said before. Nobody knows what is up or down.
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Old 06-08-2020, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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What goal posts were moved? I've always focused on hospitalizations because "cases" are a function of how many tests you do while hospitalizations is a function of how much serious illness is in the community.


Why do you think Arizona is having this issue where Texas and Georgia did not?
Elderly population in Sun City like communities.
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Old 06-08-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Black unemployment rose in May.
They were out shopping (after hours).
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Old 06-08-2020, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Black unemployment rose in May.
And yet the stock market is doing just fine.

Lesson learned, don’t loot your own neighborhood.
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Old 06-08-2020, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump didn't cook the books, its just that the numbers end up looking inaccurate using the existing formula due to the way the some folks employment status was reported. I wondered about it, because the weekly reports have shown over million jobs lost every week, and then the monthly report showed 2.5M gained.

Either way, about 20 million jobs will be added within a short period of time.
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