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I keep hearing political and societal leaders saying that we, the country as a whole, needs to have an uncomfortable conversation about racism. Of course this usually comes about after a black dies while resisting arrest. But I say; Where is the uncomfortable conversation about don't break the law and if you do, don't resist arrest when you get caught?
Nearly every one of the BLM heroes died as a result of them resisting arrest. Had they simply complied with lawful orders from the cops, they would still be around today. Maybe in jail, but they'd still be alive. Their actions directly contributed to their deaths. Even Chris Rock did a funny, albeit very truthful, video on "How not to get your *ss kicked by the police". It should be played as a public service bulletin.
Use the courts to fight; not your body. Cooperate and the situation defuses. Fight and it just escalates. One might have to swallow some pride, but at least you get to go home (or to jail) at the end of the day.
if you're a cop trying to arrest someone and they begin to fight with you what else would you think other than if they get the upper hand they'll take your gun and kill you with it. Normal people don't struggle with other people that are armed with weapons. Comply and file a complaint, fighting will just get you killed, this isn't rocket science. Color doesn't matter.
Hell with that "how high do I jump, sir" nonsense.
There were 4 cops there. There were more cops across the street. They already had him in handcuffs. He was already inside the cop car before they chose to pull him out, slam him on the ground, and sit on his neck for 9 minutes.
The cops were inept. That they couldn't get "control" of this handcuffed guy in the back of a police car says more about their failures than Floyd's.
I keep hearing political and societal leaders saying that we, the country as a whole, needs to have an uncomfortable conversation about racism. Of course this usually comes about after a black dies while resisting arrest. But I say; Where is the uncomfortable conversation about don't break the law and if you do, don't resist arrest when you get caught?
Nearly every one of the BLM heroes died as a result of them resisting arrest. Had they simply complied with lawful orders from the cops, they would still be around today. Maybe in jail, but they'd still be alive. Their actions directly contributed to their deaths. Even Chris Rock did a funny, albeit very truthful, video on "How not to get your *ss kicked by the police". It should be played as a public service bulletin.
Use the courts to fight; not your body. Cooperate and the situation defuses. Fight and it just escalates. One might have to swallow some pride, but at least you get to go home (or to jail) at the end of the day.
I saw an video where some rioter chick was complaining that it wasn't fair that they get arrested for "fighting back". These idiots believe its a dual between them and the cop.
Hell with that "how high do I jump, sir" nonsense.
There were 4 cops there. There were more cops across the street. They already had him in handcuffs. He was already inside the cop car before they chose to pull him out, slam him on the ground, and sit on his neck for 9 minutes.
The cops were inept. That they couldn't get "control" of this handcuffed guy in the back of a police car says more about their failures than Floyd's.
I don't think anyone disagrees with that .
But the OP isn't talking about George Floyd specifically..
Hell with that "how high do I jump, sir" nonsense.
There were 4 cops there. There were more cops across the street. They already had him in handcuffs. He was already inside the cop car before they chose to pull him out, slam him on the ground, and sit on his neck for 9 minutes.
The cops were inept. That they couldn't get "control" of this handcuffed guy in the back of a police car says more about their failures than Floyd's.
Word. Not only that. but if he had as many health conditions as they claim contributed to his death, it's unlikely he had the strength to "resist" to any extent anyway. The police can't have both scenarios at the same time. Either he was strong and fighting them or he was sick and died from his bad health - pick one.
Based on what I have seen and read I don't think this can be categorized as a typical case of resisting arrest. He was claiming claustrophobia and if we are to assume that is the truth there isn't a thing in the world those cops are going to do to convince him otherwise. I know someone with severe phobia for snakes, frogs and fish. If they were on the edge of a cliff and a snake was coming towards them they would probably choose to jump. It's completely irrational but that fear tosses rationality out the window. There is that one section of video he appears to be in distress and they walk him over to the building and sit him down, he's being compliant. He's not fighting the cops, he's fighting his fear. That fear may have even contributed to his death.
That said it's very difficult to put the cops in the position of determining this. They are dealing with criminals all the time making things up, some times with the intent to get the officer to let his guard down.
No charge of "resisting arrest" is valid without a charge to be arrested for in the first place !!!
If the only charge is resisting arrest the criminal is the arresting officer violating the persons rights !!!
The Libertarian in me approves.
But he won't hold his breath waiting for that to happen..
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