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Old 06-06-2020, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Nobody in Washington DC has squat to do with the Floyd tragedy. If they did, don't you think Obama would have fixed it (once and for all) in his 8 years? Or, did Obama magically come up with an 11.5 year fix that expired on May 26th, 2020?

Public health & safey is state & local government controlled. DC protects us from the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, ect.. Feds don't protect us from ourselves...that is Constitutionally, the City, County, & States jobs.

The same goes for public health and the Coronavirus. The Feds play only a back-up support role to cities, counties and states.

Nobody in DC hires, trains, or supervises City police, county, or State law enforcement.

If Blacks, & Liberals are unhappy with their local policing & discrimination, protesting City Halls, County Admin Buildings, & Statehouses, would be much more logical & effective.

What they are doing protesting in DC is like taking your car to a bicylce shop for repairs...wrong place.

Until Blacks start holding city, county, & state politicians accountable for discrimination, & bad policing, nothing will change. That is the scene of these crimes.
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Old 06-06-2020, 08:57 AM
 
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Not to start a debate of whether Trump is or isn't racist (that really isn't my point).....but I think they chooose to protest his govt. because of him and the perception he's racist.

AGain -- don't come at me -- I don't know if Trump is racist...so I'm not saying he is.
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Old 06-06-2020, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Nobody in Washington DC has squat to do with the Floyd tragedy.
You couldn't be more wrong.

Your lack of knowledge of how things work and why things are the way they are is astounding, to say the least.

Every police department gets some level of funding from the more than 2 dozen programs (at last count) established by Congress.

In case you forgot, Congress is in DC.

How are old are you? I'm guessing not old enough to remember the War on Drugs® (snicker).

Police did what they should have done, which is to gather intelligence on the organizational structure and distribution scheme of drug cartels, then insert undercover officers to confirm the accuracy of the intelligence and better define the organizational structure and distribution scheme.

So, the cartel king-pin and two lieutenants are arrested.

Enter Lame-Stream Media Stage Left: What? Blah, blah, blah, 3 people? Blah, blah, blah, that's not news, blah, blah, blah. How the hell are we supposed to make any money? Blah, blah, blah.

The Liberal Media steers the issue from Quality to Quantity.

It's a numbers games, all about the numbers.

So, Congress, with arm-twisting by the Liberal Media, says if you don't show us the numbers, then you don't get mo' money.

What happened next?

Buy-Bust.

Police are now arresting users, because there's users-a-plenty, and they're the easiest to arrest and sometimes you even get a low-level street dealer who doesn't have a goddam clue who runs the show or where the drugs come from.

Now the Liberal Media is happy as a clam, because 1) they got lots of new and can make lots of money, and 2) they can play the Race Game® and claim Blacks who stand on street-corners and deal drugs are arrested at "disproportionately higher rates" than Whites who deal drugs from the comfort and convenience of their climate-controlled basement homes in Suburbia.

So, the Liberal Media makes even mo' money.

Now, if your idiot Congress-turds had tied money to the quantity of drugs, instead of the quantity of arrests, that would have been a game-changer.

Because police would still be focused on gathering intelligence and using undercover operations to penetrate the distribution scheme.

Are you writing all this down? You should be.

Precisely because the federal government funds police departments, many cities now under-fund their police departments.

Right? I'm police chief, you're da mayor and you're saying, "Why should we give you $1 Million, when you're getting $1 Million from the feds?"

Some police departments are so dependent on federal funding, that if it would be cut, they would be forced to fire 1-100 officers and put another 1-200 officers on part-time status (depending on department size).

The reason they would be fired or relegated to part-time status is because the city wouldn't be able to fund the loss from the federal government.

Congress can do things.

Congress can't ban unions, but Congress could restrict police union activities to salary and benefit negotiations and cut the unions out of the "grievance" process, where police engage in brutality, but it isn't in their official records, because the union said so.

Congress can demand higher levels of education in order to get funding. Studies prove a correlation between education and police brutality, criminal activity and disciplinary actions. The more educated an officer is, the less likely he will be involved in brutality or criminal activity, or be a disciplinary problem.

Recent studies have a shown a correlation between the quality of education, meaning an officer from a named-university is less likely than an office who went to Bob's Community College.


Congress can establish hiring standards. Any police department that doesn't meet the standards doesn't get any mo' money.


Congress can also charge the FBI with handling police brutality complaints, instead of letting the city/unions handle them.

There's lots of things Congress can do under the Constitution.
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Old 06-06-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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It is now also about Trump’s reaction and threat to the 1st amendment.
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Old 06-06-2020, 11:16 AM
 
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Don't we argue that the President can set the tone, is the leader of the country. So in a national problem such as social justice isn't the leader of the country, the President called on for some leadership, guidance, etc.

Ironically Trump will take credit for the better than anticipated job numbers -- which has ZERO to do with any federal policy or action.

It's small communities everywhere -- Americans --- mayors, Governors that are setting the policy right now about what is opened and what isn't.

Nobody is questioning why the President stood in the Rose Garden on Friday and took credit for that.

But t the same time we question why the President shouldn't be called on to deal with the national crisis right now -- all those protests aren't limited to one state, one community -- it is nation wide. -- oh wait it is global........

Not unreasonable to turn to Washington DC for leadership and guidance.
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Old 06-06-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
You couldn't be more wrong.

Your lack of knowledge of how things work and why things are the way they are is astounding, to say the least.

Every police department gets some level of funding from the more than 2 dozen programs (at last count) established by Congress.

In case you forgot, Congress is in DC.

How are old are you? I'm guessing not old enough to remember the War on Drugs® (snicker).

Police did what they should have done, which is to gather intelligence on the organizational structure and distribution scheme of drug cartels, then insert undercover officers to confirm the accuracy of the intelligence and better define the organizational structure and distribution scheme.

So, the cartel king-pin and two lieutenants are arrested.

Enter Lame-Stream Media Stage Left: What? Blah, blah, blah, 3 people? Blah, blah, blah, that's not news, blah, blah, blah. How the hell are we supposed to make any money? Blah, blah, blah.

The Liberal Media steers the issue from Quality to Quantity.

It's a numbers games, all about the numbers.

So, Congress, with arm-twisting by the Liberal Media, says if you don't show us the numbers, then you don't get mo' money.

What happened next?

Buy-Bust.

Police are now arresting users, because there's users-a-plenty, and they're the easiest to arrest and sometimes you even get a low-level street dealer who doesn't have a goddam clue who runs the show or where the drugs come from.

Now the Liberal Media is happy as a clam, because 1) they got lots of new and can make lots of money, and 2) they can play the Race Game® and claim Blacks who stand on street-corners and deal drugs are arrested at "disproportionately higher rates" than Whites who deal drugs from the comfort and convenience of their climate-controlled basement homes in Suburbia.

So, the Liberal Media makes even mo' money.

Now, if your idiot Congress-turds had tied money to the quantity of drugs, instead of the quantity of arrests, that would have been a game-changer.

Because police would still be focused on gathering intelligence and using undercover operations to penetrate the distribution scheme.

Are you writing all this down? You should be.

Precisely because the federal government funds police departments, many cities now under-fund their police departments.

Right? I'm police chief, you're da mayor and you're saying, "Why should we give you $1 Million, when you're getting $1 Million from the feds?"

Some police departments are so dependent on federal funding, that if it would be cut, they would be forced to fire 1-100 officers and put another 1-200 officers on part-time status (depending on department size).

The reason they would be fired or relegated to part-time status is because the city wouldn't be able to fund the loss from the federal government.

Congress can do things.

Congress can't ban unions, but Congress could restrict police union activities to salary and benefit negotiations and cut the unions out of the "grievance" process, where police engage in brutality, but it isn't in their official records, because the union said so.

Congress can demand higher levels of education in order to get funding. Studies prove a correlation between education and police brutality, criminal activity and disciplinary actions. The more educated an officer is, the less likely he will be involved in brutality or criminal activity, or be a disciplinary problem.

Recent studies have a shown a correlation between the quality of education, meaning an officer from a named-university is less likely than an office who went to Bob's Community College.


Congress can establish hiring standards. Any police department that doesn't meet the standards doesn't get any mo' money.


Congress can also charge the FBI with handling police brutality complaints, instead of letting the city/unions handle them.

There's lots of things Congress can do under the Constitution.
The drug laws NEED TO GO! They were created because of racism, they have NO place in society today!


I just wonder if many of these protesters and rioters are aware of some of the things Harry Anslinger said in regards to why the US needs tough drug laws?!
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Old 06-06-2020, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The President is in DC. DC besides the mayor who is doing her damnedest mind you, is at the mercy of Congress and the President rather than state legislature and a governor. That's one.

Then you have the fact that Trump is a farce of a leader. He has shown that with both crises this year. OP, I know you choose not to see that, but it is true. That's two.

Then you have the race-baiting comments by Trump even long before he entered politics. He has a rather known track record of being a race-baiter. Ask the Central Park Five. That's three.

Should I go on?
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