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Tony Timpa died the same way that George Floyd died.
Except Tony Timpa didn't just commit a crime and wasn't a dangerous felon. Timpa had mental health issues and called the cops himself to help as he was freaking out.
Timpa was forcibly restrained for 14 minutes passed out and couldn't breathe.
When the ambulance came the cops on camera joked that they might have killed him and hoped he didn't die. He did die. The coroner's office determined that the death was a "homicide."
Very little national coverage.
3 of the 5 cops were charged with a misdemeanor. Then the charges were dropped and it never went to trial. Then all cops were hired back in.
National media barely gave it any attention - especially as the cops got off free and rehired.
I made a thread that talks briefly about how if the media started talking about these white victims more you probably would have more success with this whole movement.
There are a lot of white people that just do not care about this movement because they think the vast majority of black people are killed by cops because of their own actions. Rarely do we see a 9 minute video showing death. It's usually a 30 second or less video & you have to make your own assumptions on what happens to trigger the death. So most white people are going to assume the person brought it on their own.
But what if we started seeing more police killings of white people on MSM. We saw it more on social media. I think a certain amount of white people might start realizing it is a problem not just with blacks but whites too & they would start paying more attention. Then they'd see black people getting killed & instead of assuming they did something wrong they might feel it was unjust.
Then you have more people not bringing race into it but going at the police for being held responsible for the abuse.
Now somebody might say "they must be racist if they only care when white people are killed". And you could argue that to an extend BUT. If the end result is better policing & lives saved does it really matter? Enemies through our history have worked together for a common goal all the time.
I made a thread that talks briefly about how if the media started talking about these white victims more you probably would have more success with this whole movement.
There are a lot of white people that just do not care about this movement because they think the vast majority of black people are killed by cops because of their own actions. Rarely do we see a 9 minute video showing death. It's usually a 30 second or less video & you have to make your own assumptions on what happens to trigger the death. So most white people are going to assume the person brought it on their own.
But what if we started seeing more police killings of white people on MSM. We saw it more on social media. I think a certain amount of white people might start realizing it is a problem not just with blacks but whites too & they would start paying more attention. Then they'd see black people getting killed & instead of assuming they did something wrong they might feel it was unjust.
Then you have more people not bringing race into it but going at the police for being held responsible for the abuse.
Now somebody might say "they must be racist if they only care when white people are killed". And you could argue that to an extend BUT. If the end result is better policing & lives saved does it really matter? Enemies through our history have worked together for a common goal all the time.
I don’t doubt there are bad cops. The problem is the national narrative is these bad cops are racist and they make it appear they’re only doing this to black people. The national narrative is also making it as if ALL cops are bad which they’re not. A small portion are bad or poorly trained. Some protestors and politicians have called for eliminating the police entirely through calls to “defund the police”. The overreaction of the protestors, rioters, and certain politicians puts a valid movement in a negative light. It also serves to generate more animosity towards police resulting in murder or attempted murder of police who had nothing to do with these bad cases. Now the police across the country will be potential targets for murder AND will have to operate under even more stress wondering if they’re responding to a trap to get them killed or be accused of being too rough and potentially going to prison for doing what they were trained to do? At what point will some cops say “I quit”?
The number of cops killing people of any race is extremely low. And based on their crime rates there’s no over representation of cops killing blacks. None at all.
All this protesting, looting and rioting is nonsense. All those protesting this have no clue. I hold politicians and the media responsible along with young weak minded brainwashed fools.
Things will get worse. The country needs to split up before outright war begins. I’m white and I owe blacks or others jack. I’m debt free.
It's really a subversive tactic by both teams so they don't have to address the real issue:
Monopoly of force and subsequent abuse of said force (because there are no market pressures under statism to create true checks & balances) by the State and all of its subsidiaries across the board (military, FBI, CIA, ATF, CDC, local police, local animal humane agents, zoning boards, etc).
So Blue cries about blacks being killed. Red cries for whites.
Both think they've addressed the issue and use the fact that yes, they're making a legit beef because Daniel Shaver (white), George Floyd (black), Justine Ruszczyk (white), Eric Garner (black), Tony Timpa (white) and so on and so forth were all wrongly killed.
And killing is bad. So they feel righteous in their indignation.
However
The principled and moral person doesn't start with race of an innocent victim. In fact, there's no need to even mention it.
You either stand on the side of the innocent or the side of the aggressor. There is no in between. No little bit pregnant.
You are either for non-aggression or you're for violence...PERIOD.
Neither side wants to give up their power and authoritarian proclivities because they have been brainwashed to seek out palatable stances so that themselves can put the cognitive dissonance aside if only for awhile and walk tall in the shoes of a moral and logical and decent human being.
Spoiler alert: You're suspect and the j-ig is up.
If you really thought about it you'd admit it. Maybe not to the world-at-large but at least to yourself.
Give up the charade. Your self-shackling isn't confined to your person and you are no better than the thugs that commit these crimes firsthand.
Last edited by No_Recess; 06-07-2020 at 11:22 AM..
Tony Timpa died the same way that George Floyd died.
Except Tony Timpa didn't just commit a crime and wasn't a dangerous felon. Timpa had mental health issues and called the cops himself to help as he was freaking out.
Timpa was forcibly restrained for 14 minutes passed out and couldn't breathe.
When the ambulance came the cops on camera joked that they might have killed him and hoped he didn't die. He did die. The coroner's office determined that the death was a "homicide."
Very little national coverage.
3 of the 5 cops were charged with a misdemeanor. Then the charges were dropped and it never went to trial. Then all cops were hired back in.
National media barely gave it any attention - especially as the cops got off free and rehired.
The Jadon Hayden beating of elderly white people in Detroit has basically gotten no mainstream media attention as well...
Because it is racist to point out black on white crimes. Blacks commit more violent crimes against whites than vice versa, but you can't cover it, to do so would be racist.
The outrage against police brutality is just as much for Tony Timpa as it is for George Floyd.
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