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View Poll Results: Which cause was more evil the Confederate States of America or Nazi Germany
Confederate States of America 14 5.88%
Nazi Germany 202 84.87%
equal 22 9.24%
Voters: 238. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-22-2020, 12:52 PM
 
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Slavery in the 21st Century is not thought of as being evil, in fact it isn't thought about at all and that is why it still exists.
It's evil if you're a good person.
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Old 06-22-2020, 06:59 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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People the same then as they are now --- some are nice and some are AH. Keep reading the links on that page, you'll uncover the first hand accounts of the AH too. (WPA projects in interviewing people still alive that could remember)

At the Cornell Library I read a documented letter, some that took off for the North were met with hostility as well, so there is no straight black and white tale here of the past, because history is as complicated as its people and their reasons for doing things --- same as now.

Then put into play those same type of people are government representatives and the reasons for the succession, depending on the agenda as well as the prejudices of the historian ... people are angry because some one told them they should be and they believed 'em.

There are tens of thousands of individual denominations and faith groups in Christianity and one Bible --- because they can't agree on what it says. Agreement on history events and the reasons, is no different.
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Yes I agree, putting aside slavery and racial egalitarianism I believe there are a higher percentage of people who are AH today and less "good" people than there were back then before the 1860s. So many today are just complete narcissists and sadists without an honest bone in them. We see example at this minute of what people of today will do when they can get away with it, they just senselessly loot and destroy.
I'm not sure how you can put that together in making that comparison.

We have the law (government) then you have the people. The people trying to live with the (government) law.

The Institution of Slavery (law) dates back 4000 years. If a person got sideways with their debts they sold themselves into slavery to pay that debt. In the Bible it references people making a covenant with God, when they purchased the slaves in accordance to the law, they made them family members and much of that same practice was still going on in 1800s. (the trans Atlantic slave trade change things as I do not believe the Brits knew they were purchasing people who had been kidnapped from their homes, but rather paying their debts)

However, there were those that had no intention in making family members of the Slaves and some were really bad people, where as there was senseless violence, killings and hangings. The statics show, that those that owned more than 100 slaves were of 1%; it doesn't take much to make that leap --- to what would be corporate America.

Slavery in the United States

"Less than one-quarter of white Southerners held slaves, with half of these holding fewer than five and fewer than 1 percent owning more than one hundred. In 1860, the average number of slaves residing together was about ten."


Equal protections under the law seems to be the goal, then same as now, as well as decreasing corruption in the government.
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We see example at this minute of what people of today will do when they can get away with it, they just senselessly loot and destroy.
May not be the best way to go about it, but it is what they have to work with.
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell
Slavery in the 21st Century is not thought of as being evil, in fact it isn't thought about at all and that is why it still exists.
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It's evil if you're a good person.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

The victims of the 21st-century slave trade

"Approximately 21 million people around the world — about 3 out of every 1,000 individuals, 5 million of them children — are victims of forced labor, according to the most recent estimate, up from 12.3 million in 2005, the ILO reports.
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As of September 2015, the latest data available, Polaris’ National Human Trafficking Resource Center hotline received 16,678 tips regarding potential trafficking victims; of those, 4,168 cases have been verified. The most commonly cited industries for modern slaves in the U.S. include domestic work, farm work, factory work, door-to-door sales and restaurant and food services."
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Old 06-23-2020, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Slavery is a matter of degree.... from bad to worse. Some people are slaves and don't even know it ... "the forest for the trees".

Slavery is evil... no other way to look at it. Learn to recognize it.
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Old 06-23-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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No, he was an *** hole. He was such a giant *** hole that his grandchildren apologized for him.

When you say “also”, what do you mean? In my post that you quoted, did I call someone “low IQ” or “low intelligence”?
Trump has said "he has good bloodlines. SO you all have good blood" while speaking at a Ford facility last month.

I am waiting on the usual suspects to call Trump a leftist anti semite.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQPETbS0m-A
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