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Apparently the issue was the tone of his response, not his refusal to cancel the exam. It was one student who made the request. Nothing more.
Really? What percentage of students are affirmative action students and what percentage drop out?
This addresses the non-completion rate in STEM. Lots of hand waving as to why in the article but frankly it's well known that schools have different admission criteria designed to promote minority inclusion but unfortunately then many students then find themselves in the deep end of the pool with packs of AP\IB magnet school types that are 99%tile SAT scorers.
Let's say you're going to have an elite electrical engineering program only for white people. You let in half that are 99%tile and above kids from tech and other magnet schools and you let in half that range from 85%tile and above, certainly containing many that are fully prepared in terms of ability and prior coursework and others that are going to be starting behind the pack.
You really think the two groups will have the same completion rate in a tough elite STEM school setting? Nope. Not a chance.
This addresses the non-completion rate in STEM. Lots of hand waving as to why in the article but frankly it's well known that schools have different admission criteria designed to promote minority inclusion but unfortunately then many students then find themselves in the deep end of the pool with packs of AP\IB magnet school types that are 99%tile SAT scorers.
Let's say you're going to have an elite electrical engineering program only for white people. You let in half that are 99%tile and above kids from tech and other magnet schools and you let in half that range from 85%tile and above, certainly containing many that are fully prepared in terms of ability and prior coursework and others that are going to be starting behind the pack.
You really think the two groups will have the same completion rate in a tough elite STEM school setting? Nope. Not a chance.
There are people that do believe that could happen.
Osmosis maybe but they truly think "everyone is a winner".
Every possible hurdle is conquered for them so they can advance.
It worked for K-12 and now they are pushing the same crap in college.
When you go to college it's for what is in your brain, not the color of your skin.
The HS diploma already means nothing today.
Soon the BS/BA degree will mean nothing
This addresses the non-completion rate in STEM. Lots of hand waving as to why in the article but frankly it's well known that schools have different admission criteria designed to promote minority inclusion but unfortunately then many students then find themselves in the deep end of the pool with packs of AP\IB magnet school types that are 99%tile SAT scorers.
Let's say you're going to have an elite electrical engineering program only for white people. You let in half that are 99%tile and above kids from tech and other magnet schools and you let in half that range from 85%tile and above, certainly containing many that are fully prepared in terms of ability and prior coursework and others that are going to be starting behind the pack.
You really think the two groups will have the same completion rate in a tough elite STEM school setting? Nope. Not a chance.
What does this have to do with UCLA?
Again, what percentage of students are affirmative action students there and what percentage drop out?
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The completion rates for STEM are low in the first place, even among whites. From your article:
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37 percent of the Latinx students and 40 percent of the black students switched majors versus 29 percent of the white students
Not much of a difference. 11 percent at most.
Last edited by ReineDeCoeur; 10-04-2021 at 04:02 AM..
I'm really surprised this happened at UCLA. Back in the 1990s, California outlawed affirmative action. It was a HUGE story at the time - constantly covered on many college newspapers (yes, the printed ones as the internet was in its infancy without large-scale social media). In subsequent years, the data showed that the % of minority students on campus dropped. But the % of those who graduated with good grades went up dramatically. So, the loss of affirmative action led to admission of truly qualified minority students who could keep up with the class. They were within the mix of gpa and standardized test scores. So, the fact that affirmative action was outlawed actually increased percentage of graduation rates for minorities - especially in STEM.
So, a story like this coming to the surface decades later just seems bizarre. My opinion is that the minority students need to keep up with the standards of the class. A "free" grade isn't worth it. Besides, it's reasonable to do well in STEM courses if one just does the standard regimen of 10-15 hours per week per class with class attendance, asking for help during office hours (or zoom meetings these days), and online tutorials.
The professor should be reinstated. I don't think the communication was meant to be racist. By contrast, back in the 1980s and 1990s there were professors from the segregated era of college education who truly were racist with beliefs rooted in the all-white institutions of the 1940s and 1950s. The modern professor at UCLA is just misunderstood. These whites from the 1950s were far worse. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...egation-racism
I'm really surprised this happened at UCLA. Back in the 1990s, California outlawed affirmative action. It was a HUGE story at the time - constantly covered on many college newspapers (yes, the printed ones as the internet was in its infancy without large-scale social media). In subsequent years, the data showed that the % of minority students on campus dropped. But the % of those who graduated with good grades went up dramatically. So, the loss of affirmative action led to admission of truly qualified minority students who could keep up with the class. They were within the mix of gpa and standardized test scores. So, the fact that affirmative action was outlawed actually increased percentage of graduation rates for minorities - especially in STEM.
So, a story like this coming to the surface decades later just seems bizarre. My opinion is that the minority students need to keep up with the standards of the class. A "free" grade isn't worth it. Besides, it's reasonable to do well in STEM courses if one just does the standard regimen of 10-15 hours per week per class with class attendance, asking for help during office hours (or zoom meetings these days), and online tutorials.
The professor should be reinstated. I don't think the communication was meant to be racist. By contrast, back in the 1980s and 1990s there were professors from the segregated era of college education who truly were racist with beliefs rooted in the all-white institutions of the 1940s and 1950s. The modern professor at UCLA is just misunderstood. These whites from the 1950s were far worse. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...egation-racism
Minority students did NOT request this leniency. They are keeping up with the standards. White people need to stop trying to speak for minorities, particularly those who are Black in this instance.
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An unidentified white student e-mailed Klein and asked for a “no harm” final for black students — meaning poor grades wouldn’t be counted — because of the racially charged “unjust murders of Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor and George Floyd,” Klein said.
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