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Old 06-08-2020, 01:20 PM
 
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Ignoring the article, the words of Alveda and playing obtuse is not how this is done.

The words of Alveda is NOT a fact, it's an opinion.

I'd have love for her to cite some facts to back up her opinion, but she didn't.

Pretty much all she said is, Blacks employment is up. Well, yes but what does that have to do with Trump? She offers no link between blacks employment and Trump, none.

It'd be like saying, "The Cleveland Browns is bad! It happens during the Trump presidency, therefore it's Trump's making!"
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Old 06-08-2020, 01:21 PM
 
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Latest poll I could find goes back to mid May, showing Trump currently has 7% of the African-American vote.

Seven. LOL.
The DNC's plan to discourage runaways has been very successful thus far.
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Old 06-08-2020, 01:29 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...Which part of her column did you disagree with?
I stopped reading right here:

...There are two central lies within Biden’s launch video. The first is that Trump has had a negative impact on the black community, and the second is that Biden could do better...

Trump has unarguably emboldened a lot of racists - whether intentionally or unintentionally - with many things he has said since entering the political arena. There's no reasonable way to argue that hasn't had a negative impact on black communities. You can argue how much of an impact, sure.

Secondly, Biden doing better or not is 100% speculation and prognostication, so calling it out as a "lie" is completely unreasonable.

I didn't bother to go any further.

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Old 06-08-2020, 01:31 PM
 
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I have never seen this level of concern of the black vote. I would be excited that both parties were going for the black vote, if it was real.
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Old 06-08-2020, 01:34 PM
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I stopped reading right here:

...There are two central lies within Biden’s launch video. The first is that Trump has had a negative impact on the black community, and the second is that Biden could do better...

Trump has unarguably emboldened a lot of racists - whether intentionally or unintentionally - with many things he has said since entering the political arena. There's no reasonable way to argue that hasn't had a negative impact on black communities. You can argue how much of an impact, sure.

Secondly, Biden doing better or not is 100% speculation and prognostication, so calling it out as a "lie" is completely unreasonable.

I didn't bother to go any further.

Youre simply toting the biden lie. Too bad.

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The words of Alveda is NOT a fact, it's an opinion.

I'd have love for her to cite some facts to back up her opinion, but she didn't.

Pretty much all she said is, Blacks employment is up. Well, yes but what does that have to do with Trump? She offers no link between blacks employment and Trump, none.

It'd be like saying, "The Cleveland Browns is bad! It happens during the Trump presidency, therefore it's Trump's making!"
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A link in her article goes into further detail. There wasnt enough room in this des moines register piece for the entire list.
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Old 06-08-2020, 01:57 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Youre simply toting the biden lie. Too bad.
No, I'm simply acknowledging reality.



https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...-the-data-say/

https://www.voanews.com/usa/many-whi...l-trump-tweets

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...lection-231072

https://www.adl.org/blog/white-supre...-racist-tweets



Again, this might not be an overt goal of Trump's words and actions, but it is real.
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Old 06-08-2020, 02:38 PM
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Uber left propaganda i rarely subject myself. Too funny if you thought that would convince the sane. Meanwhile you skip the op and do the usual tap. Move along.
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Old 06-09-2020, 02:09 AM
 
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Youre simply toting the biden lie. Too bad.

A link in her article goes into further detail. There wasnt enough room in this des moines register piece for the entire list.

The link goes to some US Today Network message board where I have to register. No thank you.

Maybe you can post it here.

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Old 06-09-2020, 02:10 AM
 
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Ah yes, there's Biden, who once kicked black children out of a community pool for having "greasy hair" and then threatened them with a chain when they didn't like it. He then went on to push for legislation in order to "Lock the S.O.B.s up" because they are "violent thugs" and "predators on our streets", when someone suggested that mass incarceration would only hurt those communities who were already being mistreated by the institutions of society he responded "It doesn’t matter whether or not they’re the victims of society.....I don’t want to ask, ‘What made them do this?’ They must be taken off the street.”

An attitude that has contributed to the current problems over-incarcerated communities face today. Then he's got the balls to say that if black people even consider not supporting him, they aren't black. Joe Biden, King of the black people has spoken, apparently.

Now sure, all that may matter to you is virtue signaling and the fact that he once rode God King Barry's coattails, but it's inarguable that Biden has done more to hurt the black community than most career politicians...and that's saying something.

LOL.

If that's true, then the right-wing should fear Biden's cross party appeal.

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Old 06-09-2020, 03:09 AM
 
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Trump's really just helped african american's do more for themselves. Biden and Obama, the Clinton's and Bushes, they've done more against them.
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