Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 06-09-2020, 11:19 AM
 
13,806 posts, read 9,642,573 times
Reputation: 5243

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoBromhal View Post
but perhaps the racism you see isn't the actual racism. If the kids are giving what they think is the "right answer" - that's still racist, but it's not the same as actually making the choice which is "I think this".



If blacks have this infection, then what are the blacks going to do about it? You want whites to fight racism, OK, we've changed dramatically for the better over the last 60 and 160 years. How are blacks going to change black self-racism?

I would agree that devaluing yourself/others of your race would lead to a higher homicide rate. You'll have to explain to me how that translates to the out-of-wedlock birthrate.

It's quite disturbing, actually. Ask me, the easiest solution to black single parent families is

a) free birth control - though you might not like my prescription
b) changes to tax and even benefit programs that favor 2-parent households.
I am not asking whites. I actually don’t want your help. I prefer a black led movement by blacks and for blacks.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-09-2020, 11:19 AM
 
13,506 posts, read 16,960,844 times
Reputation: 9684
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indentured Servant View Post
If being oppressed resulted in blacks being poorer and then people look at blacks as being poor, and are more likely to look down on them because of class....the result is still seeing blacks negatively. Sure, it helps people like you feel you are not racist, but rather, rationalist just going off the data. However, even if the data is indeed factual, if it does not represent the majority of blacks then one is RACIST for assuming and treating other blacks differently as if it does.

All I am saying is that if you look at the world today, just based upon who is at the top and who is own the bottom, it creates a racial hierarchy even without a racist narrative. The richest countries in the world are white. The poorest countries in the world are black. How many commercials have we seen about starving kids in Africa with bloated bellies and flies flying around them? How many news reports to we hear about the black murder suspect on the local news. How many times do we avoid driving through the "bad part of town" and that bad part of time is majority black? How many times have you driven down a major street and watch it go from white to black, from wealth to poverty? Just looking at the world the way it is now, the optics racially paints blacks negatively, without narration. Hence, it's noting that people have to be taught. They sense it. What they have to be taught, however, is the history that explains it. White people are not going to do that and I am not expecting or depending on the to do that. However, its imperative as black people we do that in order to have a healthy view of who we are and not see us as being genetically cursed as inferior.

I am not asking your permission, agreement or your white tax dollars.
The average white person is not teaching that, but the white college professor certainly is in most cases.

But, even though you aren't looking for my agreement, I think this is a strong post and amidst a sea of sewage from the far right on this forum, you are a breath of fresh air.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2020, 11:20 AM
 
15,068 posts, read 6,111,588 times
Reputation: 5121
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indentured Servant View Post
I have been on that page.

I am all for songs and messages like this....AGAIN. To undo the damage.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTGiKYqk0gY

I tear up every time I hear that song....after a long time in between hearing it. I miss that black America. Music these days is mostly nonsense.
Yes, parents have to be vigilant about what their children watch on television, to include the commercials. No relaxer in your daughter’s hair. No white Jesus in your church or in your house. Spend time in countries where people who look like them are at all levels and equal to/in the majority. All of that has an effect on the minds of children.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2020, 11:23 AM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
2,828 posts, read 816,501 times
Reputation: 961
I wonder what would happen if they had used a red doll and a green doll?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2020, 11:49 AM
 
14,204 posts, read 11,469,987 times
Reputation: 38778
Quote:
Originally Posted by madison999 View Post
What if a test in Africa of kids/parents who'd never seen whites came out the same way?
Quote:
Originally Posted by censusdata View Post
Prejudices against dark skinned people has been going on for thousands of years and across many cultures. This is a problem in America but it's not unique to America or our current times. I was reading a book about Cambodian history and a Chinese diplomat traveling there in 1500 CE described the Khmer royals as being light skinned and attractive while the field workers were dark and ugly. In Ottoman slave markets lighter skin women sold for higher prices than dark skinned women.
Both of these were my thoughts also. A preference for lighter skin seems to be ancient and almost universal. Arguably it's built in and instinctive, though that doesn't make prejudiced societies OK. There are other physical characteristics that are universally preferred (e.g. tall men over shorter men). I don't know how to explain it, although I don't think "dark skin results from outdoor work, which is less prestigious than indoor work" is really adequate.

But in any case it seems counterproductive to test little children on whether they find dark skin or light skin more attractive.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2020, 12:14 PM
 
13,806 posts, read 9,642,573 times
Reputation: 5243
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineDeCoeur View Post
Yes, parents have to be vigilant about what their children watch on television, to include the commercials. No relaxer in your daughter’s hair. No white Jesus in your church or in your house. Spend time in countries where people who look like them are at all levels and equal to/in the majority. All of that has an effect on the minds of children.
Yeah. Black unity and strength is where it is at. The days of black consciousness were times of true elevation for black people....that soon faded with integration and drugs. I am not looking for whites to GIVE US RESPECT of ourselves. If you empower people to give you empower them to take it away. If you depend upon someone to lift you up....they can also tear you down. I agree with you. We need to go insular for REAL progress. Only a small percent of blacks will get on board with that because they are seeking white acceptance and approval.....or they don't really care about blacks anyway....just riding the moment because it is trendy.

I am for all things black. When the olympics take place....I root for the team with the most blacks. I root for all the African nations to win if there are no African Americans competing against them. A USA vs Nigeria world cup game. I am rooting for the Nigerians.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2020, 12:16 PM
 
29,946 posts, read 18,506,463 times
Reputation: 20701
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indentured Servant View Post
America needs to address racism from the psychological point of view, as well as the economic and physical point of view. The profession you rarely hear quoted in regards to racism, black people, etc, are psychologist. The profession that studies human behavior and the motives behind them is never asked to look into the racial mindset and the cause and effects upon American society. Why? It makes sense that such needs to be done.

The black doll white doll test is by no means scientific and is not without flaws in the way it was conducted. However, it would be a travesty to throw out the TRUTH being told because of the flaws in the way it was conducted or presented. The findings are VALID...even if the methodology is flawed. Many of us, who are black, KNOW this to be true. Its not always true for everyone. I need to say that because many whites like to debunk a claim by showing that its not an ABSOLUTE.

I believe that these youths thoughts exist in the adult subconscious of America. Those youth are vocalizing thoughts that adults have suppressed into their subconscious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkpUyB2xgTM&t=277s
No...……………….. the black community needs to first address itself and ask why there is rampant crime, single parent families, lack of education, and a culture of violence.

If you are looking for other groups to "help" you, you will always be lost.

Black America has failed to engage in honest introspection and will always be doomed until they do so.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2020, 12:23 PM
 
13,806 posts, read 9,642,573 times
Reputation: 5243
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
No...……………….. the black community needs to first address itself and ask why there is rampant crime, single parent families, lack of education, and a culture of violence.

If you are looking for other groups to "help" you, you will always be lost.

Black America has failed to engage in honest introspection and will always be doomed until they do so.
We have already asked and have the answer to that. Don't come in late for class and you will not have missed that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2020, 12:25 PM
 
Location: az
13,311 posts, read 7,711,043 times
Reputation: 9208
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indentured Servant View Post
I am not asking whites. I actually don’t want your help. I prefer a black led movement by blacks and for blacks.
I agree 100% and Malcolm X was absolutely correct. However, as long as there's money to be made playing the victimization card and/or pandering to White guilt many of the so-called Black leaders aren't going to rock the boat.

Unfortunately, nothing is going to change until Black communities start cleaning up their own backyard themselves.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2020, 12:32 PM
 
35,957 posts, read 30,494,438 times
Reputation: 32237
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pgh guy View Post
I wonder what would happen if they had used a red doll and a green doll?
LOL. Some one needs to do a study on that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top