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View Poll Results: Blacks killed 3000 unarmed blacks and cops killed 9, which matters more?
Only the 9 matter, the rest don't 6 11.76%
It's math, saving 3000 is better than saving 9 22 43.14%
THe blacks killed by cops deserved it 7 13.73%
I don't care either way 16 31.37%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-09-2020, 06:01 PM
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Are you kidding me????????
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:04 PM
 
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Here is the difference. When anyone kills a police officer, said person goes to prison for life, possibly the death penalty. People killed by cops, the cops rarely go to prison. It's not about numbers. It's about who gets punished for what. Yes, there are alot more Blacks killing cops than cops killing Blacks. Who is more likely to go to prison for what? The chances of a Black man facing punishment (or getting killed by another person) for killing a cop is much higher than for a cop facing punishment for killing a Black man.
Yep and thats why we have to end cops investigating fellow cops, especially in regard to a cop involved killing. It's a clear conflict of interest and why there is so much distrust.
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:05 PM
 
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I wouldn't count on gang-bangers being unarmed, but if you say so.......
If we go by your logic then "only 9 matters, the rest I don't care" is the logical choice.

Let them gangsters kill each other and help us reduce the filth from our society.
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:16 PM
 
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If we go by your logic then "only 9 matters, the rest I don't care" is the logical choice.

Let them gangsters kill each other and help us reduce the filth from our society.
So you don't believe that the police need to be held to a high standard?

Do you believe that cops physically abusing suspects is perfectly acceptable?

Do you deny a history of cops abusing their power?

I won't argue numbers or which deaths matter most. I don't care what race it is being abused. I will argue that cops investigating cops is a conflict of interest which absolutely leads to abuses and distrust.

You accidentally bump a cop while they are questioning you and you have an assaulting a police officer charge against you. They throw you on the ground, kneel on you, choke you and all before they bother to tell you what you allegedly did wrong, you just have to take it.

There is nothing right about allowing cops to abuse civilians or holding them to a lower standard.
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:25 PM
 
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So you don't believe that the police need to be held to a high standard?

Do you believe that cops physically abusing suspects is perfectly acceptable?

Do you deny a history of cops abusing their power?

I won't argue numbers or which deaths matter most. I don't care what race it is being abused. I will argue that cops investigating cops is a conflict of interest which absolutely leads to abuses and distrust.

You accidentally bump a cop while they are questioning you and you have an assaulting a police officer charge against you. They throw you on the ground, kneel on you, choke you and all before they bother to tell you what you allegedly did wrong, you just have to take it.

There is nothing right about allowing cops to abuse civilians or holding them to a lower standard.
I said, those 9 lives MATTER that were lost due to Police's inability to properly doing their job. No?
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:30 PM
 
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I said, those 9 lives MATTER that were lost due to Police's inability to properly doing their job. No?
My mistake. Apologies..

I keep seeing arguments that because most blacks are killed by other blacks and that somehow mitigates those wrongly killed by the police.

That is of course a straw argument and has no bearing on death by cop.
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Old 06-09-2020, 07:46 PM
 
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Only the 9 matter, the rest dont
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Old 06-09-2020, 07:48 PM
 
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Isn't that like saying pedophiles rape more boys than Catholic Priest so we shouldn't be making a big deal about a Priest raping a young boy?
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Are you saying they are inherently violent people and it’s just natural they would get killed by cops because violence begats violence? Interesting!
It means, people should not be overreacting to the lesser issue.

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Old 06-09-2020, 07:49 PM
 
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So you're saying that making sure all 10 cops that killed blacks (whether black or white or whether or not self defense) go to jail is more important than the lives of 3000 blacks killed by other blacks?

You do realize more whites have been killed by cops than blacks killed by cops and more whites per violent offender have been killed by cops than black violent offenders per capita (that's the facts (if they matter at all)).
None of this changes the fact that when someone kills a cop, they get punished big time. When a cop kills, the likelihood of punishment is lower. The idea of punishment is that there are consequences for killing, whether you're a police officer or a civilian.

These protests, it isn't just about George Floyd or other people who were killed by police officers. This is about justice. Civilians who kill cops are more likely to face justice than cops who kill civilians.
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Old 06-09-2020, 07:50 PM
 
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Yep and thats why we have to end cops investigating fellow cops, especially in regard to a cop involved killing. It's a clear conflict of interest and why there is so much distrust.
Who do you think should investigate police officers, to make sure there is justice?
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