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Old 06-27-2020, 07:49 AM
 
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Err black culture is American culture what are you talking about? Even the most racist American plays a Little Rock Music which was invented and popularized by Black artist, until Elvis copied it. Even still you cannot tell me a funky bass guitar riff from black music won’t move a white crowd. Oh they will be swaying and grooving because black music is American music that even white folk can not deny talks to their soul and spirit.

Black culture wants the same treatment as German culture, Jewish culture, Greek culture, Italian culture. They had the advantage of blending in so they were accepted under the “American White” umbrella, something black folk are not allowed to do because of skin color per white folk of the time. So here we are Do we have different customs, sure but so do the groups I mentioned before.
No ... Elvis (and many others) perfected it and/or made it better.
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Old 06-27-2020, 07:58 AM
 
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Because for 400 years race is how the resources were distributed. Whites with no visible non European ancestry got the lion's share, everyone else got the scraps. After 400 years there is hostility towards Whites and White fear of angry non Whites. For brief periods of time new White immigrants were feared but could later join the Club.

In Northern Ireland unrest has nothing to do with race, it is White Anglo Protestants settlers vs poorer native White Irish Catholics. In Timor it was Islam vs Christian.
One of the things you seem to be missing is how black people who become affluent, voluntarily desert their own communities.
The classic examples are entertainers, whether it be in sports, music, etc.
These people are in many cases a part of the black underclass, yet bolt to white suburbia when they come into money.
There can be a whole host of reasons, not the least of which is safety, better schools for their kids, etc.

Speaking of athletes, an interesting study was done years ago when someone noticed that when football teams ate together, they self segregated. These were all guys with something in common, yet when you looked at the lunch tables (say in training camp) with no assigned seating, most of the blacks eat together,
as did the whites.
When queried about it, none felt compelled to do so, and the most common answer from both sides was they just felt more comfortable with certain people (i.e. their own race without actually saying that). Yet they admitted some of their best friends on the team were of another race.
Like the old saying goes, birds of a feather, flock together.

As to you comment about Northern Ireland, that is true in many cases. While the religious divide is what many focus on (make no mistake, there is sectarian bigotry), in reality it is much more of a cultural divide between British and Irish. It certainly is not race, as they all look the same, and are only distinguished by name or what side of the "peace wall" they live in.

You might find this ongoing discussion interesting since you know something of the subject;

https://www.city-data.com/forum/unit...c-ireland.html




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Old 06-27-2020, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...ust-ncna873556

It's worst than the 60s in many ways, only its voluntary.

White people live in communities with few to no black people, and feel uncomfortable in opposing neighborhoods.
1. Black people are only 13% of the US population. It’s statistically impossible for every white person to have a black neighbor even if they wanted. Same for Asians, there’s not enough in America for every white person to live near.

2. Humans naturally self-segregate to the same race and hobbies as them, only exception is college and work where you could be interacting with any number of people.

3. Interracial relationships and marriages are still low, further proving the tendency humans have to stick with their own kind as well as the fact that there’s not enough blacks or Asian for every white person to date.

4. There’s no law in America saying blacks or Hispanics can’t prosper in our own neighborhoods. But as you can see, we rather just loot, march, protest, and shoot then complain about no one investing businesses or jobs near us.
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Old 06-27-2020, 08:19 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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1. Black people are only 13% of the US population. It’s statistically impossible for every white person to have a black neighbor even if they wanted. Same for Asians, there’s not enough in America for every white person to live near.

2. Humans naturally self-segregate to the same race and hobbies as them, only exception is college and work where you could be interacting with any number of people.

3. Interracial relationships and marriages are still low, further proving the tendency humans have to stick with their own kind as well as the fact that there’s not enough blacks or Asian for every white person to date.

4. There’s no law in America saying blacks or Hispanics can’t prosper in our own neighborhoods. But as you can see, we rather just loot, march, protest, and shoot then complain about no one investing businesses or jobs near us.
1. False equivalency when it comes to urban areas. With high density, there is still segregation. If there were no segregation, there would be no stark community lines and certainly no housing projects that are all white or all black.

2. In this country, racism and discrimination causes people to self segregate. Black people don't want to live where they are not wanted. And certainly white people have had a history of keeping black people out of their neighborhoods by force and by law.

3.

4. We loot, march, protest, and shoot and have always complained about the reason why we march and protest. Guess what, remove the reason to protest and there will be no looting, rioting, marches, or protest. A protest JUST to be treated equal is small.

Think about it. The colonist protested against England over oppressive taxes. They went to WAR against their government. They TOOK UP ARMS and battled against their GOVERNMENT. They are called patriots.

Black people take up signs and march against racism and discrimination and being killed in the streets and we're thrown under the bus for looting and rioting for something as easy as NOT seeing your fellow citizen as something lower.

Is one cause lower than the other? It is that social conditioning that says when white people do it, it is noble, when black people do it, is it somehow criminal and abomination.

Is there no time for revolution in this day and age? Was it only the prerogative of those white colonists fighting for freedom from tyranny?

There are still people living under tyranny and oppression. There are still revolutions to be had.
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Old 06-27-2020, 08:22 AM
 
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1. Black people are only 13% of the US population. It’s statistically impossible for every white person to have a black neighbor even if they wanted. Same for Asians, there’s not enough in America for every white person to live near.

2. Humans naturally self-segregate to the same race and hobbies as them, only exception is college and work where you could be interacting with any number of people.

3. Interracial relationships and marriages are still low, further proving the tendency humans have to stick with their own kind as well as the fact that there’s not enough blacks or Asian for every white person to date.

4. There’s no law in America saying blacks or Hispanics can’t prosper in our own neighborhoods. But as you can see, we rather just loot, march, protest, and shoot then complain about no one investing businesses or jobs near us.
If white people can never understand or relate to the "black experience", (and apparently they are all racist, privileged and ignorant) how could we have enough in common to have a functional ltr or marriage?
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Old 06-27-2020, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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1. False equivalency when it comes to urban areas. With high density, there is still segregation. If there were no segregation, there would be no stark community lines and certainly no housing projects that are all white or all black.
Every country has self-segregation, sorry you believe America should be the exception to the rule.

Besides, white people are evil and racist, so why would we blacks want to live near them?
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Old 06-27-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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If white people can never understand or relate to the "black experience", (and apparently they are all racist, privileged and ignorant) how could we have enough in common to have a functional ltr or marriage?
Where did I say white people can’t understand black people? I simply pointed out that most people date and marry within their race. Black women absolutely hate dating outside their race as the data shows.
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Old 06-27-2020, 08:30 AM
 
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If white people can never understand or relate to the "black experience", (and apparently they are all racist, privileged and ignorant) how could we have enough in common to have a functional ltr or marriage?
White people can NEVER relate to the black experience. That's not that they are racists. The call is to understand and accept the black experience as told by black people. Not to try tell black people how they SHOULD feel, SHOULD protest, SHOULD live based on a white privileged perspective.

Interracial relationships are a great example of people accepting people as they are and a willing to embrace, accept, and celebrate their differences through the power of love.

What is tearing this country apart is a lack of love for fellow countrymen no matter the color or background.


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And I see America through the eyes of the victim. I don’t see any American Dream; I see an American nightmare.
Malcolm X, from a speech in Cleveland, 1964

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Old 06-27-2020, 08:47 AM
 
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White people can NEVER relate to the black experience. That's not that they are racists. The call is to understand and accept the black experience as told by black people. Not to try tell black people how they SHOULD feel, SHOULD protest, SHOULD live based on a white privileged perspective.

Interracial relationships are a great example of people accepting people as they are and a willing to embrace, accept, and celebrate their differences through the power of love.

What is tearing this country apart is a lack of love for fellow countrymen no matter the color or background.




Malcolm X, from a speech in Cleveland, 1964
As I have often said race isn't the issue. The differing cultures are. It creates clash and division.
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Old 06-27-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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My undergrad degree is in cultural anthro.
The races are: Caucasian, Negroid, Mongoloid and Australoid.

Hispanics are classed as Caucasoid. (as are East Indians, though American Indians were classified as belonging to the Mongolian race when I was at uni, maybe that's changed)
What part of Hispanics who are Latinos are a mix of white and Amerindian didn't you get? They aren't just plain white. If you want say that the Amerindians are a part of the Mongolian race it still does change the facts above.
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