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Yes: in 2016, I voted for her but in 2020, I’ll vote for Trump unless Biden picks a centrist with an extremely likable personality, the right leadership skills, and the right platform to take over as I believe Biden will resign due to health within 6 months.
Trump is almost as old as Biden. Pence, although he looks like a President, is not capable. He was very unliked in Indiana and the signs were that he would not be re-elected as Governor.
I used to be a liberal and became an independent. I won’t be voting for any democrats in the coming election, that is for sure. I can’t stand Trump so may not vote for him either but I’m pretty much done with liberals right now.
There are more of us than I thought. That brings me hope.
That would be awesome and it's about the only scenario where I could get excited about the outcome of the election. It would surely **** off large swaths of the far left because whomever the VP is will likely become president before Biden's term is up so they would essentially be voting for a republican. It would guarantee independent votes though and it would help heal the divisiveness.
The last thing the powers that be want is to heal divisiveness. That's why I don't believe Rice will ever be chosen.
-Defunding and in some cases calls to abolish the police, which will cause increases in crime and the emboldenment of criminals.
- Police being attacked, cursed at, spit on and killed just for wearing the uniform with absolutely no inclination they have done anything wrong to warrant being attacked.
- Forgiving bail for rioters, not prosecuting them.
- Letting dangerous criminals out of jail for Covid.
Let me see if I get this logic correct.. our society, through due process and an judgement of peers has found people dangerous enough to be removed from society but because of the coronavirus, their welfare takes precedence over the safety of the community. So if a murderer gets released for covid and goes and murders someone, what about the consideration for the safety of that victim?
-Out of Control Cancel Culture! Careers ruined, overkill censorship so nobody is offended but only one side gets a voice in this. There are calls to cancel PAW PATROL, for Eff's sake!! Because it has police dogs and I guess that is a microaggression or something.
Statues being defaced and destroyed. The mob gets to decide if the rest of us should have them or not.
- Absolutely ZERO tolerance for diversity of opinion or debate. It's either you agree with them or you should have no voice, not only that, you should have your career destroyed or you can be physically assaulted as has happened to Trump supporters and Antifa victims.
This is NOT the party of JFK anymore, JFK would probably be not allowed to speak at most liberal universities today.
Are there moderate democrats who are tired of this crap? I'm not a right winger and I'm not crazy about Trump and can't vote for him but the modern left has gone insane lately. Or at least the loudest voices in the modern left. Why can't you take your party back?
Here, without actually wasting my time reading the thread, let me put my Leftie thinking cap on and answer this...
-Defunding and in some cases calls to abolish the police, which will cause increases in crime and the emboldenment of criminals.
- Police being attacked, cursed at, spit on and killed just for wearing the uniform with absolutely no inclination they have done anything wrong to warrant being attacked.
- Forgiving bail for rioters, not prosecuting them.
- Letting dangerous criminals out of jail for Covid.
Let me see if I get this logic correct.. our society, through due process and an judgement of peers has found people dangerous enough to be removed from society but because of the coronavirus, their welfare takes precedence over the safety of the community. So if a murderer gets released for covid and goes and murders someone, what about the consideration for the safety of that victim?
-Out of Control Cancel Culture! Careers ruined, overkill censorship so nobody is offended but only one side gets a voice in this. There are calls to cancel PAW PATROL, for Eff's sake!! Because it has police dogs and I guess that is a microaggression or something.
Statues being defaced and destroyed. The mob gets to decide if the rest of us should have them or not.
- Absolutely ZERO tolerance for diversity of opinion or debate. It's either you agree with them or you should have no voice, not only that, you should have your career destroyed or you can be physically assaulted as has happened to Trump supporters and Antifa victims.
This is NOT the party of JFK anymore, JFK would probably be not allowed to speak at most liberal universities today.
Are there moderate democrats who are tired of this crap? I'm not a right winger and I'm not crazy about Trump and can't vote for him but the modern left has gone insane lately. Or at least the loudest voices in the modern left. Why can't you take your party back?
Plot twist, you're not actually a liberal. You're a moderate republican who thinks they're a moderate democrat. Most of your complaints look like republican talking points, or are.
Originally Posted by Fisherman99
Biden very well may pick Republican Condoleezza Rice as his VP running mate.
I keep seeing this posted. It is Susan Rice (the liar) that is being considered for VP.
In fairness, Biden is a dementia patient, if the DNC allowed him to pick his own VP candidate, he might accidentally pick Condoleezza Rice over Susan Rice.
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and Waa! Yeahbut tWump! 
