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Old 06-15-2020, 06:37 AM
 
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He drove drunk from his house (a few miles?) and could have killed someone on the way. I can't imagine how he was able to drive since was so inebriated that he fell asleep in a drive through with the car running.
People need to take responsibility for their actions, what type of message would that send if they let him off. Don't worry if your caught DWI the cops will let you off.

The fact that he was asleep at the time is irrelevant. Why didn't someone at his house take his keys away or offer to make the run for him, that would have been the responsible action.
This.^ So many people want to dismiss drunk driving. Why? Because they do it themselves! Wait until a drunk driver takes a loved one from you and then see how you feel.

No one should expect to live after fighting with cops and pulling one of their weapons. We can't ask other human beings to put their lives on the line everyday to deal with the criminal element of society without being able to protect themselves. It is an unfair ask.

I am having a hard time feeling sorry for this guy because it is almost guaranteed this is not the first time he has put lives at risk by driving drunk. People lives are irreparably harmed everyday because someone chooses to drink and drive. We are waayyyyyy to lax on this as a society. We need automatic long-term jail sentences for this.
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Old 06-15-2020, 06:48 AM
 
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He drove drunk from his house (a few miles?) and could have killed someone on the way. I can't imagine how he was able to drive since was so inebriated that he fell asleep in a drive through with the car running.
People need to take responsibility for their actions, what type of message would that send if they let him off. Don't worry if your caught DWI the cops will let you off.

The fact that he was asleep at the time is irrelevant. Why didn't someone at his house take his keys away or offer to make the run for him, that would have been the responsible action.
Well...all I am saying is that policing is subjective. The officer did not have to take the approach he did. If you want to know why the police and the black community are historically at odds, it’s because blacks are being policed by white officers, some of whom seem hell bent on escalating a situation and sending the person to jail.

Rashaad had really positive energy and the officers energy was totally negative. The officer had the stronger energy because he had power and authority. Thus, his energy infected Rashaad instead of Rashaad’s energy impacting the officer.

There are tons of people who drink then drive and never cause problems. He was able to make it to the drive thru. It would have been irresponsible for the police to let him drive, but the officer WANTED to arrest him, he did not HAVE to arrest him.

Think of the old days and small town policing where the police know the citizens and their family. How would theY have handled this? They would have called the wife or somebody to come pick him up. The closer the police force is to the community the better the police force treats that community.
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Well...all I am saying is that policing is subjective. The officer did not have to take the approach he did. If you want to know why the police and the black community are historically at odds, it’s because blacks are being policed by white officers, some of whom seem hell bent on escalating a situation and sending the person to jail.

Rashaad had really positive energy and the officers energy was totally negative. The officer had the stronger energy because he had power and authority. Thus, his energy infected Rashaad instead of Rashaad’s energy impacting the officer.

There are tons of people who drink then drive and never cause problems. He was able to make it to the drive thru. It would have been irresponsible for the police to let him drive, but the officer WANTED to arrest him, he did not HAVE to arrest him.

Think of the old days and small town policing where the police know the citizens and their family. How would theY have handled this? They would have called the wife or somebody to come pick him up. The closer the police force is to the community the better the police force treats that community.
That shows just how little you know. He was on body camera. He failed a breathalyzer on scene. He is done. They can't let him go. They have a crime they must make an arrest. I hate when people who have zero knowledge about police work spout off like they know the rules and regulations.
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:05 AM
 
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That shows just how little you know. He was on body camera. He failed a breathalyzer on scene. He is done. They can't let him go. They have a crime they must make an arrest. I hate when people who have zero knowledge about police work spout off like they know the rules and regulations.
He admitted he had been drinking. He admitted it and wanted to walk. He was given the test to authorize his arrest. The officer was hell bent on his arrest. He could have looked for a way not to make a persons life worse. Had he done that he probably would have spread goodwill about police. Instead, he ramped up hate for the police.

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Old 06-15-2020, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not too long ago liberals were saying only cops should have guns.
Yeah until Cops started to turn into Murderers.
America has become a Police state.
Your Conservative A** should be concerned about that.

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Old 06-15-2020, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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He admitted he had been drinking. He admitted it and wanted to walk. He was given the test to authorize his arrest. The officer was hell bent on his arrest. He could have looked for a way not to make a persons life worse. Had he done that he probably would have spread goodwill about police. Instead, he ramped up hate for the police.
Again you know absolutely nothing. Lets try this again. Maybe it will sink in. They have a crime. It is captured on body camera. Even if they wanted to let him go they have no choice but to make an arrest. You are clueless about police department procedure yet you talk like you are an expert. Learn police department procedures before making statements that sound good but have no basis in reality!
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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That Fulton County DA is a piece of work.

(Paraphrased) ...

"Over the last 10 years, 10,000 people have been killed by police and only 143 have been prosecuted. And that's a problem."

You know what else is a problem? A district attorney trying to re-start a riot.

No nuance. No clarification on how many of those were actively trying to kill the police and/or were armed themselves.

Are they trying to burn down this country on purpose?
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:20 AM
 
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He admitted he had been drinking. He admitted it and wanted to walk. He was given the test to authorize his arrest. The officer was hell bent on his arrest. He could have looked for a way not to make a persons life worse. Had he done that he probably would have spread goodwill about police. Instead, he ramped up hate for the police.
LOL so it was the cop's fault for doing his job and enforcing the law? That's brilliant.

After all, the cop should have seen that the guy was black which means he shouldn't be expected to follow the laws right? Any law he was breaking was probably racist anyway.

You realize how impossible it is to take you seriously when you are rolling with hot takes like this right?
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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He admitted he had been drinking. He admitted it and wanted to walk. He was given the test to authorize his arrest. The officer was hell bent on his arrest. He could have looked for a way not to make a persons life worse. Had he done that he probably would have spread goodwill about police. Instead, he ramped up hate for the police.
... and if he would've been allowed to walk and got into another car and killed someone, what about then?

If he would've been allowed to walk and somehow ended up dead because he was drunk - and maybe walked in front of a bus - the cop would've been to blame.

When I get pulled over for speeding or not coming to a full stop or whatever - I don't get to walk either.
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Old 06-15-2020, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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He admitted he had been drinking. He admitted it and wanted to walk. He was given the test to authorize his arrest. The officer was hell bent on his arrest. He could have looked for a way not to make a persons life worse. Had he done that he probably would have spread goodwill about police. Instead, he ramped up hate for the police.
I agree police should be community advocates, out on the street getting to know the people they serve and all of that. And giving someone a break is a good thing. But it has to be for something minor - and DWI is not that. He could have killed someone driving to Wendy's.

Not only that, but the suggestion to leave his car there and letting him walk to his sisters was ludicrous. Are the cops supposed to stand watch at the car to ensure he doesn't come back and drive off?

There's a reason white cops don't get involved in the community, though. Their lives are at risk and they take too much **** to be placed out there in that situation. They're told to leave. And when they leave, other residents start whining that there's no police presence.

They can't win.
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