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Then please explain to us all here why the republicans are the ones with their knickers in a twist over the removal of Confederate statues honoring racist traitors, and not the Democrats?
You can't have it both ways. We'll wait for your reply.
All the Confederate veterans were made into US Veterans as part of the reconciliation. Many of those Confederate high ranking officers were originally US military officers who graduated from West Point. In that era it wasn’t simply choosing to turn your back on your country. In those days people held greater loyalty to their home state than their nation. Though they fought for the wrong side that doesn’t necessarily mean they supported slavery and owned slaves. Some of the Confederate officers did not own slaves while some of the Union officers did own slaves as slavery was still legal in some areas of the northern states until after the Civil war. Some of these Confederate officers went on to do good work for the local community which had been ravaged by the war. Before declaring all these monuments be taken down, try doing some research into each individual monument’s history as to why the people of that time wished to honor this person and what good did this person do? All great men of history are flawed. They did great things and are remembered in spite of their flaws.
In before some idiot tries to say there was a "big switch" of the Partys positions. The "big switch" is a left wing lie since the Democrats try to project their racist history onto the Republicans.
There was the union and the confederate --- then they were later identified (there were Rs and Ds in both groups) as we know them today. However, people are complicated and the issue was and is, power, protection and money and getting one to give to the other --- money without having to provide protection, under the u.s. constitution.
"The Constitution delegated no power to Congress to excluded either party from its free enjoyment; therefore our right was good under the Constitution. Our rights were further fortified by the practice of the Government from the beginning. Slavery was forbidden in the country northwest of the Ohio River by what is called the ordinance of 1787. That ordinance was adopted under the old confederation and by the assent of Virginia, who owned and ceded the country, and therefore this case must stand on its own special circumstances. The Government of the United States claimed territory by virtue of the treaty of 1783 with Great Britain, acquired territory by cession from Georgia and North Carolina, by treaty from France, and by treaty from Spain. These acquisitions largely exceeded the original limits of the Republic. In all of these acquisitions the policy of the Government was uniform. It opened them to the settlement of all the citizens of all the States of the Union. They emigrated thither with their property of every kind (including slaves). All were equally protected by public authority in their persons and property until the inhabitants became sufficiently numerous and otherwise capable of bearing the burdens and performing the duties of self-government, when they were admitted into the Union upon equal terms with the other States, with whatever republican constitution they might adopt for themselves."
Slavery wasn't abolished for moral reasons, but rather for political gain. Thus the reason there are 58,000 enslaved in the u.s. today and they don't get a movement; not even so much of a march to set them free. They rate a 0 on the political spectrum.
You know the sad thing about this thread?....OP probably thought "got em" when he posted it.
All the responses are standard level insane Boomer drivel that CD political forums are known for.
Nice assuming my gender and my age.
I'm a woman of generation X! I also used to be a democrat because I thought they were supposed to be open minded, protect wildlife and animals and the national parks. Now they want to destroy this country and overpopulate it with people from third world countries, which isn't very environmentally friendly.
At the bottom of this society are a small collection of human garbage who are mostly, if not entirely no good; they are not identifiable with any particular racial or other segment of that society, but ANTIFA is probably the most prominent example.
But the difference between the major parties is that while the Republicans seek to educate most of that group, the Democrats seek to build a coalition around it -- united only by economic ignorance, and the resentment of other peoples' success.
This is why (with a few exceptions), when I enter a voting booth, the Democrats are almost always eliminated from consideration.
Let's simplify it a bit, since that hasn't already been done on this board a thousand times.
Conservatives owned slaves. Liberals wanted to free them, and elected Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln freed them. He was shot for his troubles, by a conservative.
After the war, the conservatives who had lost the war started the Klu Klux Klan, and they are mutual admirers to this very day. They have been joined by the neonazis, and swastikas and Confederate flags fly side by side at bot of their gatherings.
Regardless of any other labels you try to affix to them, these are the facts in Who's Who Land.
Oh, you mean the same liberals like Bill Gates and other mega corporations that support democrats/liberals that also outsourced the companies to other countries to take advantage of the cheap/slave labor?
Same liberals that pretty much control Hollywood which has been historically known for it's racism, sexism and pedophilia? Even to this day, it's rare a woman can get into Hollywood without sleeping around and doing a nude/sex scene in a movie, just as a Black person has to play a slave, a criminal or wear make up and a dress at least once to be recognized by the Hollywood Liberal elite.
Hey, wasn't it liberal Tipper Gore that tried to ban music and free speech because it didn't fit inside her little pretty box? Heck, since liberal SJW's took over MTV, it's turned into complete horse manure.
The unfortunate reality is, the two parties are ONE IN THE SAME THING!
The big differences between the 2 parties, are just disguises to fool the people into believing there are two separate political parties. Its been very effective if you look at recent history.
Heres another way to look at it...If Trump could save one person from falling off a building, the 2 people were Hillary Clinton and the other was his most devoted MAGA supporter....He would grab Hillaries hand in a heartbeat! At the end of the day, Trump and Hillary are BOTH, part of the elite upper class, (they take care of each other).
I would not be surprised if ALL these people are actually good friends with each other, but we are not permitted to see any of that...when the cameras are on, they are both playing their 'characters'. The goal is to divide the public against one another.
Are you in favor of Confederate monuments, which honor racists and traitors, or not? The Confederates were the conservatives. If you oppose them, you are a Liberal, and would have been in favor of Lincoln and Emancipation and against Lee and Booth. If you are in favor of the monuments, you would have been a member of the party who killed Lincoln and formed the KKK.
It's not a trick question. Which side are you on...?
While both political parties have had, and still have, their shortcomings, have folk ever considered that party re-alignment makes their arguments on which party to "ban," based on history, irrelevant and obsolete?
All the Confederate veterans were made into US Veterans as part of the reconciliation. Many of those Confederate high ranking officers were originally US military officers who graduated from West Point. In that era it wasn’t simply choosing to turn your back on your country. In those days people held greater loyalty to their home state than their nation. Though they fought for the wrong side that doesn’t necessarily mean they supported slavery and owned slaves. Some of the Confederate officers did not own slaves while some of the Union officers did own slaves as slavery was still legal in some areas of the northern states until after the Civil war. Some of these Confederate officers went on to do good work for the local community which had been ravaged by the war. Before declaring all these monuments be taken down, try doing some research into each individual monument’s history as to why the people of that time wished to honor this person and what good did this person do? All great men of history are flawed. They did great things and are remembered in spite of their flaws.
Great try at attempting to muddy the issue, but it still remains stark who was in favor of and opposed to slavery, e.g., who were the conservatives and Liberals. If you want to call yourself a Lincoln Republican, then you are representing as a Liberal.
Pre-1964 democrats are termed "Southern Democrats", which would correspond to modern-day republicans.
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They rate a 0 on the political spectrum.
