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Black communities are already in chaos and despair. This thread doesn't make sense. Over-policing hasn't worked. It's just put people in a constant police state and ripped families apart. The police don't prevent black-on-black crime anyways. What good have they been to the black community?
I mean, Democrats control most of the big cities, and all of the cities where we have had these incidents, starting in Baltimore, and have done so for decades. So, it is a simple question: when their communities become run by the Lord of the Flies, will inner city black people finally admit that they were wrong, and face the facts that they commit more violence than any other ethnic group, and no one is trying to oppress them? Or will they double down on the delusion and find some Republican white person--any republican white person--to blame?
Discuss.
Why would the Black community fall into despair bc cops aren't showing up to catch stray dogs or tell loud kids to go home?
Black communities are already in chaos and despair. This thread doesn't make sense. Over-policing hasn't worked. It's just put people in a constant police state and ripped families apart. The police don't prevent black-on-black crime anyways. What good have they been to the black community?
Remember Baltimore after Freddie Gray died? The black activists were shrieking at the top of their lungs that the police were a blight on their communities and that they only bring suffering and death.
The cops backed off. They stopped walking their beats. They stopped patrolling. They stopped proactively looking for criminals.
The result? The homicide rate tripled. Muggings, rapes, burglaries, assaults and every other violent crime got way way worse. Black communities were begging for the police to get back into their neighborhoods and protect them from the madness.
How many times do these communities have to learn the same lesson the hard way?
Why would the Black community fall into despair bc cops aren't showing up to catch stray dogs or tell loud kids to go home?
If all that were going on in the worst parts of the inner-city were kids being too loud or some stray dogs running around, then we wouldn't have cities with thousands of armed cops and SWAT teams. You know very well that your statement is inaccurate and ridiculous.
Black communities are already in chaos and despair. This thread doesn't make sense. Over-policing hasn't worked. It's just put people in a constant police state and ripped families apart. The police don't prevent black-on-black crime anyways. What good have they been to the black community?
Many Black communities have been in chaos and despair going back 100 years. In places like Memphis and St. Louis, many Blacks were living in slum-like areas. And I would also think about this. If you want to consider chaos in Black communities, look at how the freeway systems work.
They were designed to move Whites from the city to the suburbs. They were often built to go through Black neighborhoods. If you go to alot of Black neighborhoods, there are freeways going through them. Baltimore is one example. The way it was designed, it cut off alot of Black neighborhoods from the rest of the city. The freeways also divided many Black neighborhoods from themselves.
Basically, during the 1950s, urban removal was a big thing. Many Black neighborhoods were destroyed by freeways being built over them.
Over policing and under policing hasn't really helped Black people. Establishing a happy medium doesn't seem to be the rule.
It worked spectacularly. Look at the change in murder rates since 1990. Cities that went for aggressive law enforcement (thinking specifically of NYC.) Saw HUGE drops. So over policing worked well.
NYC seem to be knuckling under to BLM''s extortion. So law enforcement will be neutered, and the experiment will now reverse. It will be interesting tof see what happens to the murder rate of blacks under these conditions. I'm guessing it will go way up. So much for black lives mattering to Black Lives Matter.
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Black communities are already in chaos and despair. This thread doesn't make sense. Over-policing hasn't worked. It's just put people in a constant police state and ripped families apart. The police don't prevent black-on-black crime anyways. What good have they been to the black community?
It worked spectacularly. Look at the change in murder rates since 1990. Cities that went for aggressive law enforcement (thinking specifically of NYC.) Saw HUGE drops. So over policing worked well.
NYC seem to be knuckling under to BLM''s extortion. So law enforcement will be neutered, and the experiment will now reverse. It will be interesting tof see what happens to the murder rate of blacks under these conditions. I'm guessing it will go way up. So much for black lives mattering to Black Lives Matter.
A lot of cities were going through other things. Gentrification has often meant people who couldn't afford to live there had to leave. Many just went to other cities. This is what happened with NYC. And NYC's population started aging.
Part of that aggressive policing involving violating the 4th amendment rights of many people. Most of those who were stopped and frisked were not found to be doing anything wrong. What happened with NYC is that the over all median income went up. Those who couldn't afford NYC left for places like New Jersey, Pennsylvania, or the Deep South.
"Over policing" helped alot of people, except Black people, specifically those living in poor, ghetto areas. It got criminals off the streets, but it didn't scare future law breakers or other violent criminals.
It worked spectacularly. Look at the change in murder rates since 1990. Cities that went for aggressive law enforcement (thinking specifically of NYC.) Saw HUGE drops. So over policing worked well.
NYC seem to be knuckling under to BLM''s extortion. So law enforcement will be neutered, and the experiment will now reverse. It will be interesting tof see what happens to the murder rate of blacks under these conditions. I'm guessing it will go way up. So much for black lives mattering to Black Lives Matter.
Look at the rate of homicides in New York; where it stands on the list.
A city that has functional public transportation, that allows people to move freely through the neighborhoods, to be employed, instead of being cut off from the rest of the world.
Amazing what just this factor alone makes in reducing the violent crime, instead of the constant presence of police with guns.
Spectacular, innit?
This is so incredibly wrong. The drop in crime started during a recession. So gentrification wasn't happening at that point. But as the city became safer, people mover in in higher numbers. The economy started booming and gentrification then started kicking in. But the drop in crime started it going, NOT the other way around.
People have been trying to explain away the success of NYC's aggressive policing for decades, but it worked so well there's no good argument against it. It was a huge part of NYC's success in the last few decades.
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A lot of cities were going through other things. Gentrification has often meant people who couldn't afford to live there had to leave. Many just went to other cities. This is what happened with NYC. And NYC's population started aging.
Part of that aggressive policing involving violating the 4th amendment rights of many people. Most of those who were stopped and frisked were not found to be doing anything wrong. What happened with NYC is that the over all median income went up. Those who couldn't afford NYC left for places like New Jersey, Pennsylvania, or the Deep South.
"Over policing" helped alot of people, except Black people, specifically those living in poor, ghetto areas. It got criminals off the streets, but it didn't scare future law breakers or other violent criminals.
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