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Old 06-17-2020, 11:07 AM
 
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James Rosen is the most prominent example, but the corrupt Obama regime went after dozens of journalists. You guys really are willfully ignorant.
He was prosecuted? Weird, I thought I would've remembered. He was investigated, but I don't think I recall any actual prosecution.
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:07 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Did you actually read any of the links above? Not one example of Obama threatening to prosecute journalists for saying bad things about him or making his poll numbers look bad.

You proved my point, thank you. It did not happen.

The first link is a case that stems from the Bush administration and involves a journalist that released classified documents about the CIA. Bush started the case and Obama continued it. Obviously this happened before Obama was in the White house. Obama was not retaliating against a reporter who said things about him.

The next one makes the false claim that Obama prosecuted more journalists than all previous presidents combined and then lists 2 times. One from the first link and one a Fox news reporter who shared classified info about North Korea. Again not at all what I asked. You should probably study up on how Lincoln dealt with reporters during the civil war.

The other links simply show Obama going after leaks that went to reporters.

Again show one example of Obama threatening to prosecute a reporter just because they said bad things about him or tried to hurt his poll numbers? And so you know I am not a fan of Obama. Did not vote for him. But to compare his record dealing with journalists with Trump is laughable.
There was no free press under Obama. Journalists are typically shielded from divulging their sources, not so under Obama. Obama used his office to spy on them(it's okay with you that he used the DoJ to grab journalist's phone records?), to threaten them and to prosecute them. No I don't know 'all of their names'. If you are that interested in all of their names then research them. I gave you a very good head start.

It's no secret that Obama hated Fox. He complained about them while on his first campaign, which is where he made that comment about polls, and he complained and harassed Fox and their journalists ever since.
"“I am convinced that if there were no Fox News, I might be two or three points higher in the polls,” Obama told me."
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/m...19obama-t.html


Do you think that journalists should be required to divulge their sources, no matter what?
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:10 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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The Trump worshippers are already diagnosing the niece with TDS and the book isn't even out yet.
yeah like someone who has a vendetta and wants a piece of the pie will be absolutely truthful, lol
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:12 AM
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As you willfully fail to support your allegation.

It was claimed Obama prosecuted journalists.
When?
Where?
What were the charges?
Here's one of dozen of articles from the usual suspects of Right Leaning Sites (all Trumper's approved)

https://theblacksphere.net/2017/02/m...n-journalists/

They all read along the same lines.........
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:15 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Here's one of dozen of articles from the usual suspects of Right Leaning Sites (all Trumper's approved)

https://theblacksphere.net/2017/02/m...n-journalists/

They all read along the same lines.........
Or you can read the AP article I posted, but I suppose that’s another right wing site. The absence of stories about it from CNN MSNBC etc. is just more proof those outlets are propaganda artists for the DNC. But you know that.
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:21 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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yeah like someone who has a vendetta and wants a piece of the pie will be absolutely truthful, lol
"Truthful", eh? Now suddenly Trump worshippers care about "truthful"?


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Old 06-17-2020, 11:22 AM
 
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How long does it take to do a review? They had the book since November-December 2019 so what is the holdup.

Looks like State sanctioned muzzling by a desperate Administration. They know what is in that book already, there is something they don’t want to get out before the election.
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Exactly the point.

Trump is afraid of the Truth, like a cockroach is afraid of the light. Trump knows what went on while Bolton was inside, and he also knows what is in the book, they have had the manuscript for half a year and they already know Bolton excised any sensitive national security information.

Well, the thing has already been printed and is in the warehouses ready to ship, an expensive process ... that means the publisher felt confident in it's release months ago. It is already a part of history.

Even if they succeeded in destroying every printed copy, the manuscript will live on in digital form, accessed by historians and the general public eventually.

Trump knows it will get out, unchanged, he desperately wants to delay it until AFTER the election. This is a stalling tactic for political reasons, not a legitimate legal concern.
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:23 AM
 
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There was no free press under Obama. Journalists are typically shielded from divulging their sources, not so under Obama. Obama used his office to spy on them(it's okay with you that he used the DoJ to grab journalist's phone records?), to threaten them and to prosecute them. No I don't know 'all of their names'. If you are that interested in all of their names then research them. I gave you a very good head start.

It's no secret that Obama hated Fox. He complained about them while on his first campaign, which is where he made that comment about polls, and he complained and harassed Fox and their journalists ever since.
"“I am convinced that if there were no Fox News, I might be two or three points higher in the polls,” Obama told me."
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/m...19obama-t.html


Do you think that journalists should be required to divulge their sources, no matter what?
I don't need names, but do you have links to support your assertions that Obama spied on journalists, threatened or prosecuted them?
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:24 AM
 
Location: FL
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Now the Trumpenfuhrer is looking into suing his niece over her upcoming book. Gee, I wonder what he's got to hide?



tRump considers suing his niece over tell-all book
"Most transparent president"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H9kHLsX_aQ
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:24 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Or you can read the AP article I posted, but I suppose that’s another right wing site. The absence of stories about it from CNN MSNBC etc. is just more proof those outlets are propaganda artists for the DNC. But you know that.
So if a story is only carried on a right wing nut job site like Breitbart that's proof of bias in the MSM?
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