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Not exactly sure what that has to do with a debate about the Confederacy, though.
I included the Founding Fathers and the Confederates with this. Both groups owned slaves and some people want their statues removed. People are highlighting everyone who benefited from slavery. I just think it should be known that those who were involved in and benefited from slavery goes beyond just whites on those statues.
I’m aware that there were free black people as well. Nothing you said negates what I said. I’m also aware that there were black slave owners, this doesn’t take away from the fact that one race was determined to be slaves and another was determined to be free in a racial caste system.
I know literally not every black person was a slave in the U.S., it doesn’t change the fact that they were the only ones designated to slavery in the U.S.
And I ask again would it have been better if whites had allowed the enslavement of their own race like Africans did, and the Indian natives like latin Americans did?
And I ask again would it have been better if whites had allowed the enslavement of their own race like Africans did, and the Indian natives like latin Americans did?
Oh, I didn’t know you were asking a serious question. No, it would not have been better. More slavery would not have been better. No slavery would’ve been better. I don’t get the point of this question though.
Oh, I didn’t know you were asking a serious question. No, it would not have been better. More slavery would not have been better. No slavery would’ve been better. I don’t get the point of this question though.
My point is a counterpoint to your claim that American slavery was worse because only members of one race were permitted to be enslaved. I think it's worse to enslave members of your own race like Africans and some Amerindian tribes did or to enslave multiple races as in latin America.
My point is a counterpoint to your claim that American slavery was worse because only members of one race were permitted to be enslaved. I think it's worse to enslave members of your own race like Africans and some Amerindian tribes did or to enslave multiple races as in latin America.
I said it has distinguishing characteristics that other forms of slavery didn’t. It created a racial caste system, that saw black people as sub human and therefore fit to be slaves. This has reverberating effects in our society today, this is why people in this country focus mainly on the American based slavery system. All slavery is bad imo. The effects from said slavery are different, especially when a people is stripped of their lineage and is seen as less than human. Also Africans, wouldn’t have seen warring tribes as “their people”, even Europeans at the time didn’t have the same concept of “whiteness” that we have today.
I said it has distinguishing characteristics that other forms of slavery didn’t. It created a racial caste system, that saw black people as sub human and therefore fit to be slaves. This has reverberating effects in our society today, this is why people in this country focus mainly on the American based slavery system. All slavery is bad imo. The effects from said slavery are different, especially when a people is stripped of their lineage and is seen as less than human. Also Africans, wouldn’t have seen warring tribes as “their people”, even Europeans at the time didn’t have the same concept of “whiteness” that we have today.
Like I said it wouldn't have changed anything for the better for blacks or made a difference if whites and Indians were allowed to be enslaved too. A majority of whites were lower class and weren't all that much better off back in that day. America has race relation problems primarily because multiculturalism doesn't work and would have the same problems if blacks were never enslaved. If you put Africans, Europeans and Asians together they clash everywhere in the world. It doesn't have anything to do with historical slavery.
Like I said it wouldn't have changed anything for the better for blacks or made a difference if whites and Indians were allowed to be enslaved too. A majority of whites were lower class and weren't all that much better off back in that day. America has race relation problems primarily because multiculturalism doesn't work and would have the same problems if blacks were never enslaved. If you put Africans, Europeans and Asians together they clash everywhere in the world. It doesn't have anything to do with historical slavery.
Well the whites were free, there is that. They could also ascend in society a lot easier. I don’t understand why admitting this is controversial. Who do you think helped spur our modern day globalization and multiculturalism? (hint it wasn’t Africans) I can see there won’t be any reconciliation between our views on immigration and society.
In Mexico, the slavery lasted into the 1900s which was longer than for rural Alabama plantations.
Wait, what? Mexico abolished slavery in 1829.
That was a major reason for the Texas revolution - and once the Texans had their own republic, they re-introduced slavery, pronto. (They don't cover that bit in the Alamo exhibit, I suspect.) Thousands of slaves from the US slave states escaped south to Mexico and freedom.
The most troubling thing about slavery isn't the fact that Africans owned and sold slaves because most of the ancient world, ( White,black, brown, yellow or red) did the same thing. The most troubling thing is why did the founding fathers come to the "new world" and adopt such an ancient and brutal system of human bondage. They claimed that they themselves had been persecuted and not free. So they established a new world settlement under God and immediately began persecuting and enslaving humans. IMO the Bible nor the constitution fully shakes outs in American society as of yet because of this.
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The most troubling thing is why did the founding fathers come to the "new world" and adopt such an ancient and brutal system of human bondage.
They brought The Bible with them and 3000 years of culture in the Institution of Slavery.
Did you know that since the present day stigma [that which you claim in your post] against the culture of old, that Egypt is paying archeologist to reverse their claims of slaves in Egypt --- they were laborers, living in laborer's housing.
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IMO the Bible nor the constitution fully shakes outs in American society as of yet because of this.
Read it with understanding and then you'll get it. They made them family members, because they did agree with the 'law of the land' either, but it was God's law.
Well the whites were free, there is that. They could also ascend in society a lot easier. I don’t understand why admitting this is controversial. Who do you think helped spur our modern day globalization and multiculturalism? (hint it wasn’t Africans) I can see there won’t be any reconciliation between our views on immigration and society.
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Well the whites were free, there is that.
Not all of 'em ... some sold themselves into slavery for passage to the, 'new world'.
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