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Old 06-19-2020, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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I'm neither democrat nor republican but any real student of history will tell you that the political parties have shifted significantly since the slavery days. Modern republicans are more or less old school democrats and modern democrats are more or less old school republicans.

It may have been the republican party in name who freed the slaves, but it sure as hell wasn't the same party as the modern republican party.

The party pushing for states rights and the right to own fellow human beings may have been the democrat party in name, but it sure as hell wasn't the same party as the modern democratic party.

It DOESN'T MATTER.


Just like they did to Aunt Jemima.... she was updated with a new image, but the ORIGIN of the brand was enough for it to be deemed RACIST and "traumatic" for black people who would face rows of bottles of the stuff as they purchased their fake syrup.


Generational trauma echoing through the ages because the ORIGIN of the brand and history of minstrels and mammies far outweighed the "reformed image" of the brand.
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Old 06-19-2020, 10:20 AM
 
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Actually, it is illegal for a Democrat to hold office, at least at the State level, per the United States Constitution, Article IV Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence." (bolded added by me)

Clearly, State Governments can ONLY be comprised of Republicans, and not only that - the Federal Government has a duty to protect States from invasion (presumably by Democrats), and also "domestic Violence" (e.g., rioting by Democrats).
Sarcasm is hard to discern in print, but surely this is it.
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Old 06-19-2020, 10:40 AM
 
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Strom Thurmond is considered one of the most racist American politicians of the 20th century. He was a member of the Democratic party prior to 1964. Then he flipped to the Republican party due to the Democrats recognizing they were on the wrong side of history and trying to make amends. Republicans picked up the mantle and executed the Southern Strategy that helped Nixon win two elections based on racism.

There's a list of other politicians that switched sides. Reagan switched around the same time. So did many Southern Democrats. They didn't agree with the more liberal platform that included efforts to enact the Civil Rights Act.

Fun fact about that:

Southern Democrats in the House and Senate voted about 90% against the bill.
Southern Republicans in the House and Senate were 100% against the bill.

Northern Democrats in the House and Senate were about 95% in favor.
North Republicans were only about 85% in favor.

This had more to do with a North/South conflict than a Republican/Democrat one. So I don't know who you are fooling.
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Old 06-19-2020, 10:41 AM
 
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The Party of Slavery should be cancelled
The Party of the KKK should be cancelled
The Party of Jim Crow should be cancelled
The Party of Segregation should be cancelled
The Party of Internment Camps should be cancelled


If the USA is canceling & destroying everything about our RACIST History... Why is the Democrat Party still around?
Nice Try. We can tell you really put a lot of effort into this.

But we know our history.
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Old 06-19-2020, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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The Party of Slavery should be cancelled
The Party of the KKK should be cancelled
The Party of Jim Crow should be cancelled
The Party of Segregation should be cancelled
The Party of Internment Camps should be cancelled


If the USA is canceling & destroying everything about our RACIST History... Why is the Democrat Party still around?
I'm all for the Southeastern Part of the United States being cancelled. That takes down four of those. And the California of Internment Camp days has been cancelled for forty years now.

Now let's get back to all of the Republicans of today.
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Old 06-19-2020, 10:51 AM
 
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For those with at least one foot in the here and now, the party currently associated with racism starts with an R.

For one, few Democrats are waving the Confederate flag around. That's more of a Republican thing.

I could go on, but back to the topic of thread, there is no danger of our history being forgotten. The last several hundred years have been well documented.

Lunatics on the loose.
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Old 06-19-2020, 11:56 AM
 
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Racist Democrats didn't really switch parties. Democrats switched the race to be racist against.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:51 PM
 
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It's crazy how yall pick and choose when things from the past are relevant to the present. All that stuff from the past, in the OP, is supposed to be relevant to 2020, but in another thread people won't dare let black people use stuff from the past to make a 2020 argument.


edit: and i'm neither Dem or Rep.
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Old 06-19-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Absolutely. Anyone who pushes the idea that the modern Democratic party is the party of slavery is a moron, ignorant, or a liar. They can choose which one they want to be.





So you would agree that the current trend to cancel things which have a negative genesis... but which have since evolved and no longer stand for those things.... is an exercise in performative stupidity?


I mean, if you can forgive the Democratic party from being founded as the party of slavers and slave holding interests.... surely we as a culture can forgive aunt Jemima's origin story? Or how about the origin stories of most world religions?






Or nah? Y'all to invested in your identities as a Democrat?
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Old 06-19-2020, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Because the Democratic Party of today is no closer to its roots in the antebellum South than the Republican Party of today is to its abolitionist founders.

That dog don’t hunt.
The Democratic Party of today is just as racist as it was in the 1800s. They’ve simply learned to couch their racism in acceptable terms. There is nothing more racist than telling an entire group of people that they are incapable of success without government assistance, and that is exactly what the Democrats have been doing for 50+ years. They still believe that people of color are unable to make their own decisions and choices, as Biden so eloquently displayed with his “if you don’t vote for me you aren’t really black” comment and his characterization of Obama as “storybook” because he was articulate, bright, clean, and nice looking.

Growing up in the South and the Midwest, I knew a fair number of actual racists (versus the so-called racists that the media tries to invent today). One of my best friends in high school (one of a handful of non-whites in the area) woke up to a burning cross in his front yard and vile graffiti painted on his house because he had the audacity to ask a white girl to prom. None of the people who burned that cross or graffitied that house voted Republican. Not one. All of them were Democrats who proudly displayed bumper stickers proclaiming that fact. The town government, the county government, and the local sheriff were Democrats. It was known who performed the cross burning and graffitied the house because they all bragged about it at the local diner. There were no arrests.
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