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Old 07-03-2020, 03:26 PM
 
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If everything ended in 1865 then Sowell's point would be relevant. The US still required Civil Rights legislation in the 1960's for Black folk. His point does not address the issues within the US post-slavery.

His argument skips over 100+ years of US history.
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Old 07-03-2020, 03:47 PM
 
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Which skin color can endure the sun longer in the working in the fields? The darker the skin, the higher the price. So you are right, it did have to do with skin color ...


African American Slave Owners in Kentucky


That easy huh?
I thought blacks can get sunburnt too. That is why when they travel close or near the Sahara, they cover up in scarfs. If you in the jungle, then the tree canopy will protect you, or some use dirt from the ground as a sun tan.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:07 PM
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Even if a black person was not a slave; a freedman or even a freeman who was never a slave restrictions were still placed on him because of his color.
Same as now, there are illegal immigrants from Europe, they're not on ICE radar.

African's that caught a boat and migrated over, it seems I read they did have issues and they had to carry papers on 'em. And I'm sure there were times that didn't even work and a freedman would have to carry their papers on them, as well. I also wonder about the German, Irish etc, that sold themselves into slavery for the boat ride to the new world if they didn't at some point try to abandon their duties --- and escape.

The t.v. series Outlander caught my attention --- woman travels back in time from 1945, 200 years in Scotland; the story eventually makes it way to the u.s. ... I am amazed anyone of that era lived past the age of 25 without being murdered. a lot of meanness then, same as now.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:08 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrf...uC7HaV1Jyk1zNQ

Excerpt from Thomas Sowell's "Black Rednecks & White Liberals".
Dr. Thomas Sowell is probably one of the most brilliant minds alive in America. In a series of long essays, It presents eye-opening insights into the historical development of the ghetto culture that is today wrongly seen as a unique black identity--a culture cheered on toward self-destruction by white liberals who consider themselves "friends" of blacks. This essay titled "The Real History of Slavery"

Thomas Sowell is great. Listen to part of his book.
He was my favorite editorial writer before his recent retirement.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:08 PM
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Which skin color can endure the sun longer in the working in the fields? The darker the skin, the higher the price. So you are right, it did have to do with skin color ...


African American Slave Owners in Kentucky


That easy huh?
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I thought blacks can get sunburnt too. That is why when they travel close or near the Sahara, they cover up in scarfs. If you in the jungle, then the tree canopy will protect you, or some use dirt from the ground as a sun tan.
That could be, but all I know is what was written about the reasoning behind having darker skinned labors working the fields ...
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:17 PM
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That could be, but all I know is what was written about the reasoning behind having darker skinned labors working the fields ...
Malaria was the reason. Africans were much more resistant to its effects as it was endemic to Africa. Early ships brought malaria bearing mosquitos to the southern US and Northern Europeans had a hard time in the swampy coastal areas and river bottoms with the most fertile soil.
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:27 PM
 
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If everything ended in 1865 then Sowell's point would be relevant. The US still required Civil Rights legislation in the 1960's for Black folk. His point does not address the issues within the US post-slavery.

His argument skips over 100+ years of US history.
You’re just getting an excerpt. If you read the book he goes into depth about how much urban black culture is influenced by Southern whites. It’s an interesting hypothesis which has some flaws but also truths.

It’s not one of his better books.

Race and Culture is one of his best books.
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